My wife and I moved from an apartment to a tiny two bedroom house when I got a new job about 10 years ago. We had to buy our own fridge. And when we moved out we “sold” it and the washer/dryer to the couple that moved in after us because our next place was thankfully furnished.
Meanwhile, when I bought a house, the fridge was supposed to be conveyed as a fixture as per the terms of the FHA financing.
(The seller sold it anyway and my real estate agent bought me fridge out of his commission to save the deal, but still, the Federal government dictated that it was supposed to come with the house even as a purchase, let alone a rental.)
I don’t know, maybe they did settle it up like that at closing. All I know is that my agent literally went to the store and bought the thing himself, and that I didn’t pay for it.
In California I think when this takes effect it will be any contact signed after. Also they can put in the agreement that renter will supply their own or something. It’s been awhile since I last read about it though so I might be wrong.
I feel bad for all the people who are gonna potentially end up with a fucking thrift shop mini fridge from all these cheap ass slumlords.
Buying homes is a bit different imo. My parents made it clear every time we moved that the fridge and washer/dryer were moving with us. One time we had someone try to say they wanted my dad’s Big Green Egg included and he literally told them to fuck off. However, every new build home they bought came with a fridge, microwave, and stove.
If you’re buying in cash or with a conventional loan, I guess the terms can be whatever you want. But I was a first-time buyer with an FHA loan, and the FHA itself imposed habitability requirements that included having a fridge. (They also made the seller fix a broken window and missing porch railing.)
That’s why I thought the comparison was interesting: I’d have assumed California protections for renters would be way ahead of federal protections for buyers, given that the state is more progressive and the constituency is more vulnerable.
It’s a huge up-front cost, and a major pain to move - can’t just huck it in the back of your sedan; you’d quite possibly need to pay someone to move it, or have to rend equipment to do so. You’d also have to sell it at a loss, or even worse just throw it out, when you inevitably move someplace already furnished with one.
An apartment owner clearly already has sufficient capital, and the appliance would never need to be moved or sold.
Because large appliances do not always fit in all spaces, they are very hard to transport, and have a high likelihood of becoming waste. There’s virtually no benefit to buying your own fridge and relocating with it.
I guess but that also applies to all other furniture. You can rent a fully furnished apartment if you like, personally I’d rather make the space my own
You sound European. Unlike in your case, American kitchens are very built-in and are typically only removed with a sledgehammer when it’s time to renovate.
My wife and I moved from an apartment to a tiny two bedroom house when I got a new job about 10 years ago. We had to buy our own fridge. And when we moved out we “sold” it and the washer/dryer to the couple that moved in after us because our next place was thankfully furnished.
Sometimes you really need legislation.
Meanwhile, when I bought a house, the fridge was supposed to be conveyed as a fixture as per the terms of the FHA financing.
(The seller sold it anyway and my real estate agent bought me fridge out of his commission to save the deal, but still, the Federal government dictated that it was supposed to come with the house even as a purchase, let alone a rental.)
Should have taken it out of the sellers money.
I don’t know, maybe they did settle it up like that at closing. All I know is that my agent literally went to the store and bought the thing himself, and that I didn’t pay for it.
In California I think when this takes effect it will be any contact signed after. Also they can put in the agreement that renter will supply their own or something. It’s been awhile since I last read about it though so I might be wrong.
I feel bad for all the people who are gonna potentially end up with a fucking thrift shop mini fridge from all these cheap ass slumlords.
Edit - shit I replied to the wrong comment sorry
Buying homes is a bit different imo. My parents made it clear every time we moved that the fridge and washer/dryer were moving with us. One time we had someone try to say they wanted my dad’s Big Green Egg included and he literally told them to fuck off. However, every new build home they bought came with a fridge, microwave, and stove.
If you’re buying in cash or with a conventional loan, I guess the terms can be whatever you want. But I was a first-time buyer with an FHA loan, and the FHA itself imposed habitability requirements that included having a fridge. (They also made the seller fix a broken window and missing porch railing.)
That’s why I thought the comparison was interesting: I’d have assumed California protections for renters would be way ahead of federal protections for buyers, given that the state is more progressive and the constituency is more vulnerable.
What’s wrong with buying your own fridge? I guess moving it sucks, but it’s not like it makes a difference cost whise in the end
My current appartment came without a kitchen, so I bought my own and will take it with me to the next one
It’s a huge up-front cost, and a major pain to move - can’t just huck it in the back of your sedan; you’d quite possibly need to pay someone to move it, or have to rend equipment to do so. You’d also have to sell it at a loss, or even worse just throw it out, when you inevitably move someplace already furnished with one.
An apartment owner clearly already has sufficient capital, and the appliance would never need to be moved or sold.
Because large appliances do not always fit in all spaces, they are very hard to transport, and have a high likelihood of becoming waste. There’s virtually no benefit to buying your own fridge and relocating with it.
I guess but that also applies to all other furniture. You can rent a fully furnished apartment if you like, personally I’d rather make the space my own
You sound European. Unlike in your case, American kitchens are very built-in and are typically only removed with a sledgehammer when it’s time to renovate.
Ironically the picture shows an Ikea kitchen, with the same bamboo drawers I have xD
Same thing that’s wrong with buying your own sink, cabinets, bathtub, flooring, etc.