• OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    My favourite part about online Nazis is how they claim the evilness is blown out of proportion because “not that many Jews died”, but then they simultaneously openly hate Jews.

    For anyone bored enough to debate Nazis online, keep your eyes peeled for this trend. It’s a very consistent one.

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        That didn’t happen

        And if it did, it wasn’t that bad

        And if it was, that’s not a big deal

        And if it was, that’s not my fault

        And if it was… Actually, fuck it, we have Congress people now, we’ll do it again.

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      It’s the classic denial. They say the Holocaust didn’t happen but that they wish it had. They know they’re lying, it’s just a way to not be too repulsive for the people that might be willing to join them

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          Yeah but that part is quiet. They say that they don’t believe it happened then put their feelers out with some antisemitic statements if it doesn’t get pushback. Their goal seems to be to cross the line a little bit

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      They’ll also claim to be objective and critical while simultaneously holding some of the most subjective and personal thoughts imaginable.

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      “It never happened but they deserved it”. It’s a classic rhetoric of people who deny or white wash genocides.

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      If some nazis are really using this argument then that’s funny. 1 innocent person dying bc of nazi ideology is still injustifiable.

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      It doesn’t make sense too, like it’s bad enough even if just one died.

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    Doesn’t “Troll” kind of imply they don’t actually believe what they’re saying and are just trying to mess with you?

    I think most of the time they’re just genuinely nazis.

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      Some are trolls. Some are Nazis. And some are Nazis pretending to be trolls. In any case, block and move on.

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      A troll is someone who engages with the intent of harming others, moreso than any desire to improve the world, say something meaningful, or form social bonds.

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                Sure, but they got yelled at before, not upvoted the moment they figured out how to get the dogwhistles sneaky enough.

                Granted, often by unhinged types, but if Crazy Greg wants to yell at Nazis I’ll offer him critical support regardless.

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              Fascists can’t stand up to the combined posting power of hexbear and lemmygrad and that’s why they needed to be defederated from .world

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                I would say .world is more in the infiltration stage of taking over a liberal space rn, but the community is still largely populated by actual liberals-by-default.

                The kind where they’ll have “democratic socialists” posting butthurt memes about getting banned from here when they know damn well “The commies are literally spreading national socialism” only appeals to people who have heard those words before in passing and therefore think they know what they mean.

                After all, the kind of socialist they don’t have to genocide is saying something bad about their political opponents, that means it’s correct and they’re not lying about their own beliefs, right?