Since the rice for fried rice has to be “old”, I make a couple cups a night or two before I wanna make it and then throw that rice in the refrigerator.

My partner says this is weird because her family only made fried rice when they had too much rice leftover. But we eat a lot of rice and there’s not usually any leftovers, definitely not enough for a whole batch of fried rice. I really like fried rice though.

Also why isn’t there a cooking comm?

    • xijinpingist [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      For Chinese food, ask Chinese people. American chefs don’t make Chinese food, they make this weird, overly sweet breaded crap that was popular in Canton and Fukien provinces 150 years ago.

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        So Americans make food that was popular in China when the largest wave of Chinese immigrants came to the country? It’s recipes that were created my chinese immigrants adapted to the ingredients they could get. Same with Tex-Mex and American Italian food.

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          Tex-Mex wasn’t made by “immigrants”, it was made by Texans in a mockery of Mexican cuisine. Flour tortillas instead of corn, clunky white people flavors instead of the delicate layering of Mexican interior food, and NO seafood. Marisco is delightful!West coast or east?

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      Lau comes from a professional cooking background, where they do fry fresh rice. Home cooks generally do not, and use day old leftover rice. My uncle owned and ran a restaurant and would fry fresh rice (his trick is to add less water than usual in the rice cooker, or steamed if it can be bothered to set up a steamer). My mother only ever fries leftover rice.

      The minstrel showman, Uncle Roger, swears by leftover rice because he also does not come from a culinary background.

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      Dangit, my brain got stuck on the word “cook” when looking for a comm and I forgot about c/food.

      How in the world do you start with fresh rice though? Won’t it end up to smushy?

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    A lot of Chinese and east Asian migrants are home cooks. Home cooks do not use fresh rice for fried rice.

    But having seen and experienced commercial restaurants, incl some Michelin guide ones in China, they fry freshly cooked rice.

    If you for some reason have a steam setup at home with a steamer basket and steam cloth, use that for fried rice. It’s actually very traditional, in a pre-electricity sort of way. This, unlike an electric rice cooker, will leave the grains of rice looser but also it’s easier to take it off the heat prematurely to stop the cooking (for fried rice, cook it 90% of the way you’d normally steam rice for)

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      Why not? Sometimes home cooks want to make fried rice and don’t have leftover rice. It’s a pretty big statement to say that home cooks simply don’t do something. There are a lot of home cooks making a lot of fried rice in a lot of different ways. I’m sure me and OP aren’t the only ones making fresh rice for fried rice.

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        I mean it was a generalisation repeated by everyone from my Chinese grandmother to the minstrel showman Uncle Roger, I don’t really mean it literally.

        Because freshly cooked rice is wetter and clumpier, it makes it harder to stir fry and has a different texture, but easier to pick up a clump with chopsticks for a regular meal. This is especially true of shorter grain rice varieties. It’s also harder for seasoning to penetrate the inside of a sticky ball of rice, requiring constant attention to break up clumps (or attempt to break up the clump and sometimes it just turns into a mush). If you regularly have fried rice as street food or in a restaurant, the contrast in texture becomes even more apparent. With eating out being cheaper than cooking at home for a lot of Chinese, it feels bad when you spend more money and time on ingredients to get a worse product.

        Another aspect of stir frying anything with Cantonese style of stir frying techniques, where you want to achieve wok hei. I’m not hugely opinionated on wok hei because I’m from Wuhan, but some people do. Wok hei is a chemical reaction that calls for as little moisture as physically possible, as the flavour comes from a combination of the Mallard reaction and the polymerisation of oil as ingredients in a wok are tossed and aerated, coating the ingredients in hot, seasoned, aerosolised oil. Moisture brings down the average temperature of the wok, which is the first issue. The second is that half the flavour comes from the oil hitting smoking point (but not burning) and clinging onto the ingredients, and oil is hydrophobic, wet ingredients will not get seasoned, the oil just rolls off. You can get around this with a jet engine stove (like restaurants have) which reach 300°C on low to instantly get rid of any excess moisture, but that’s not practical for home cooks.

        The way around this is to steam it (steamed rice rarely absorbs more water than the rice wants to, very hard to get it too wet or clumpy) or purposefully use less than the recommended amount of water for a shorter amount of time, but a lot of people don’t know to do that or don’t want a whole batch of rice to come out like that. Just as an example, the family rice cooker we have in Wuhan has a volume of 5-6 litres, usually serving 4-8+ people. Undercooking an entire batch of rice for the sake of fried rice is very unusual.

        Like, you can get sushi rice, leave all the surface starch on by not washing it, pressure cook it for an hour and stir fry that. You’re not gonna die eating it, cook how you want to, but sometimes there’s a reason for why some things are done the way they are.

        Rice is as versatile as bread, you can spread Vegemite on pita bread. You can dip wonder bread in hummus. You can throw bahn mi ingredients in a tortilla. I’m sure none of them are going to be bad, per se. But sometimes the form and factor does make a difference to overall enjoyability.

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          Wow, thank you for these very interesting insights! From what you’ve described, I think I don’t run into these problems because I only ever cook basmati rice (I know I know, wrong for fried rice but it’s my favourite rice), and prefer a dryer rice even if I’m not using it for fried rice, so the rice I make rarely clumps even when it’s fresh. I’ll keep these things in mind so I can try it with the proper shorter grain rice sometime. The stuff about Wok hei is very interesting as well, I’ll try to remember it if I ever get a gas stove. Thanks again!

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            Ah, I’ve used Basmati a couple times myself at a friend’s house. Results were pretty good. Although the downside is basmati is roughly 50-60% more expensive than the alternative where I live, so it’s not in my pantry usually.

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    Is the issue that she thinks you can only make fried rice if there is leftover rice? So you can’t make fried rice for the rest of your life if you never have any leftovers?

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    I make ramen noodles specifically so I can save the noodles for later when I fry them with vegetables.

    I just drink the broth for breakfast.

    I don’t think it’s weird!

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    No, that’s how you make fried rice. Doing it several nights in advance is maybe a bit excessive, you only really need a couple hours.