I can’t tell if this is pro-Maduro or anti-Maduro but either way it’s in bad taste.
EDIT: The image URL leads to Hexbear, so absolutely the red fascists. In fact, they’re probably simultaneously mad that Maduro was taken and thankful for Trump giving them something to screetch about.
“Demonic captors” implies that the US Monroe Doctrine is a “demonic capture” of South America rather than defending it from colonists like those who came before the 20th century. Maduro was a self elected dictator, bringing that kind of authoritarian “freedom” to the rest of South America would cause undue hardship for everyone and is exactly what real Anarchists would oppose.
This is not to defend Trump, what Trump did was highly illegal and he should be deposed and punished for his many crimes.
The sort of people who support this sort of “liberation” of Venezuela also support the illegal military operation invasion are also supporters of Trump holding absolute power and want further actions to control Venezuela’s people and resources, which is exactly what real Anarchists would oppose.
This is not to defend Maduro, who was an undemocratic dictator.
So, where in the image are anarchists defending Maduro specifically? Yeah I’m no fucking fan of Maduro but there’s a wildly more consequential problem on Venezuelan hands, namely AmeriKKKan imperialism.
You are making me waste bandwidth every time you make me explicitly bring this up, bandwidth which is better spent at speaking out against the US and their lies. It should be obvious that any support for Maduro from anarchists is extremely critical.
Actually, where on earth is anyone defending Maduro specifically? Even amongst state socialists, he’s not a popular guy!
And also come the fuck on with this ‘the Monroe Doctrine isn’t colonialism’ silliness. It’s not European colonialism; it’s AmeriKKKan colonialism. Same shit, different managers.
The Monroe doctrine is paternalistic and colonialist in nature. The US has zero right to be dictating anything to the peoples of South America.
The US is a rogue state who doesn’t abide by international law and routinely flexes it’s might against smaller nations to enforce it’s own ambitions onto the will of others. This has been the case since it’s inception. Maduro is nothing compared to the problems of America, anyone focusing on him instead of stopping the US needs to reassess their priorities.
implies that the US Monroe Doctrine is a “demonic capture” of South America rather than defending it from colonists like those who came before the 20th century.
Wouldn’t use the word “demonic” since demons aren’t real, but yeah, it’s definitely imperialist hegemonic abuse.
As for your ridiculous assertion that the Monroe Doctrine is all about “defending [Latin America] from colonists”, that would make a lot more sense if not for the fact that all the “colonists” that the US “defend” against are Left wing (by name if not always by deed) leaders native to the respective countries who aren’t sufficiently enthusiastically embracing exploitation at the hands of US business interests.
When Argentina declared war on the OG colonists to reclaim their territory in the Falklands War, the US first tried to kinda sorta but not really play the neutral peacemaker and then took the side of the colonists.
Maduro was a self elected dictator
Selected by his vastly superior in every way predecessor Hugo Chavez (whom the US hated at LEAST as much as Maduro), not himself.
That he’s since been awful and corrupt and quite possibly unduly influenced at least one election doesn’t justify kidnapping and deposing him and bombing his people. If it did, doing the same thing in Washington DC would logically be equally legitimate.
bringing that kind of authoritarian “freedom” to the rest of South America would cause undue hardship for everyone
So what the rest of South America needs is the fascism of the Trump administration in stead? Sounds like you’re very heavily implying that you only mind authoritarian rule when it’s not of the flavor that you’ve been indoctrinated to accept.
is exactly what real Anarchists would oppose.
About time you were right about anything. Then again, FASCISM AND IMPERIALISM are also exactly what real anarchists oppose.
This is not to defend Trump
Sure, you’re just defending Trump’s ACTIONS, which have nothing to do with defending Trump! 🙄
what Trump did was highly illegal and he should be deposed and punished for his many crimes
Correct for the second time, but like the first time, COMPLETELY at odds with everything else you said.
It’s neither, it’s anti-imperial and anti-colonial. We don’t need to establish moral purity before the global south gets to have basic international rights.
I can’t tell if this is pro-Maduro or anti-Maduro but either way it’s in bad taste.
EDIT: The image URL leads to Hexbear, so absolutely the red fascists. In fact, they’re probably simultaneously mad that Maduro was taken and thankful for Trump giving them something to screetch about.
Okay this should be good. Why on earth is this in bad taste?
Pick an option first.
Let’s go with pro-Maduro first. Why would this image be in bad taste if it is a pro-Maduro image?
“Demonic captors” implies that the US Monroe Doctrine is a “demonic capture” of South America rather than defending it from colonists like those who came before the 20th century. Maduro was a self elected dictator, bringing that kind of authoritarian “freedom” to the rest of South America would cause undue hardship for everyone and is exactly what real Anarchists would oppose.
This is not to defend Trump, what Trump did was highly illegal and he should be deposed and punished for his many crimes.
Terrific. And since you implied the existence of the other option: if it was an anti-Maduro image, why would it be in poor taste?
The sort of people who support this sort of “liberation” of Venezuela also support the illegal military operation invasion are also supporters of Trump holding absolute power and want further actions to control Venezuela’s people and resources, which is exactly what real Anarchists would oppose.
This is not to defend Maduro, who was an undemocratic dictator.
Excellent.
So, where in the image are anarchists defending Maduro specifically? Yeah I’m no fucking fan of Maduro but there’s a wildly more consequential problem on Venezuelan hands, namely AmeriKKKan imperialism.
You are making me waste bandwidth every time you make me explicitly bring this up, bandwidth which is better spent at speaking out against the US and their lies. It should be obvious that any support for Maduro from anarchists is extremely critical.
Actually, where on earth is anyone defending Maduro specifically? Even amongst state socialists, he’s not a popular guy!
And also come the fuck on with this ‘the Monroe Doctrine isn’t colonialism’ silliness. It’s not European colonialism; it’s AmeriKKKan colonialism. Same shit, different managers.
You’re really going to sit there and pretend the recent events, Maduro being abducted, have nothing to do with this post?
The Monroe doctrine is paternalistic and colonialist in nature. The US has zero right to be dictating anything to the peoples of South America.
The US is a rogue state who doesn’t abide by international law and routinely flexes it’s might against smaller nations to enforce it’s own ambitions onto the will of others. This has been the case since it’s inception. Maduro is nothing compared to the problems of America, anyone focusing on him instead of stopping the US needs to reassess their priorities.
Wouldn’t use the word “demonic” since demons aren’t real, but yeah, it’s definitely imperialist hegemonic abuse.
As for your ridiculous assertion that the Monroe Doctrine is all about “defending [Latin America] from colonists”, that would make a lot more sense if not for the fact that all the “colonists” that the US “defend” against are Left wing (by name if not always by deed) leaders native to the respective countries who aren’t sufficiently enthusiastically embracing exploitation at the hands of US business interests.
When Argentina declared war on the OG colonists to reclaim their territory in the Falklands War, the US first tried to kinda sorta but not really play the neutral peacemaker and then took the side of the colonists.
Selected by his vastly superior in every way predecessor Hugo Chavez (whom the US hated at LEAST as much as Maduro), not himself.
That he’s since been awful and corrupt and quite possibly unduly influenced at least one election doesn’t justify kidnapping and deposing him and bombing his people. If it did, doing the same thing in Washington DC would logically be equally legitimate.
So what the rest of South America needs is the fascism of the Trump administration in stead? Sounds like you’re very heavily implying that you only mind authoritarian rule when it’s not of the flavor that you’ve been indoctrinated to accept.
About time you were right about anything. Then again, FASCISM AND IMPERIALISM are also exactly what real anarchists oppose.
Sure, you’re just defending Trump’s ACTIONS, which have nothing to do with defending Trump! 🙄
Correct for the second time, but like the first time, COMPLETELY at odds with everything else you said.
It’s neither, it’s anti-imperial and anti-colonial. We don’t need to establish moral purity before the global south gets to have basic international rights.