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- yt_explainers@lemmy.link
There’s something so funny about extrapolating modern human behavior up to hypothetical alien civilizations. It’s a part of our science fiction that hasn’t changed much from the days when life on Mars or a water-rain soaked Venus was still Hard Since Fiction. Like, they even admit 99.99% of the video is imaginary – but they can’t imagine anything else? Silly.
At 5:32 they show this stylized progression from hunter-gatherers, to agrarian settlements, to modern cities. What’s telling is that the agrarian settlements are bleak beige and yellows and oranges; poop and skeletons piled up everywhere. The modern city is a pristine and healthy green, with roads and airplanes and clean water. If there’s any consideration to the consequences of present day life, it’s a footnote. A bug to be ironed out in the next technological rollout.
They just love to end videos on a sort of ‘Cosmic Call to Arms’, where humanity goes on to colonize the stars. Never any consideration of what may need to happen before, the work and organization necessary to facilitate such a lofty undertaking. Modern problems are barely worth considering, because we’ll just engineer our way around it, by Jove!
If it was just Kurzgesagt, I probably wouldn’t bother to write this out. But it’s the most prominent and competently produced version of a narrative that seems to be everywhere. There’s also a lot of lefty analysis and breakdown of these tropes. But I think that’s only half of the work necessary. You can’t just shoot down a story and call it a day. You have to fill that space with a more compelling story, give people something to think about and contemplate instead. Otherwise the old story just hangs around, getting bigger and more silly with each refutation it survives.
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The Dark Forest is basically the most depressing vision possible.
Unrelated to any of this discussion: just imagine being a Kurzgesagt Patreon supporter. As if they are in any way meaningfully funded by viewers. Pure grift.
edit: LO FUCKING L, their first tier of subscription is literally just Catholic Indulgences, but for blocking their shitty ads. They even call it that! What the fuck?
just imagine being a Kurzgesagt Patreon supporter. As if they are in any way meaningfully funded by viewers. Pure grift.
Some bazingas directly donate money to :my-hero: . King Bazinga is paid billions by the United States government already but the faithful want the Singularity™ that much faster.
I liked the part where the wallbreakers were like “I am your wallbreaker!” And they broke walls all over the place.
I loved the part where the wallbreaker said “Trisolaris, tear down this wall!” and then the two solar systems lived in peace.
The only good strategy against trisolaris is offering to terraform Venus and Mars for them.
“Space is big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.”
Even if there was a highly advanced species out there somewhere in the Milky Way, they’d need FTL travel to ever stumble upon us. And like, a lot faster than light. Not only would they need to figure out how to travel faster than light, they’d need to figure out how to supply the infinite amounts of energy required, or a way to circumvent that energy cost I guess.
If you assume that FTL travel is impossible, then I think it’s also pretty impossible for aliens to ever come to our solar system because of the sheer, incomprehensible distance between the stars.
Well, that depends on how much time they’re willing to spend traveling. Assuming that they would have to get here in a single human lifetime is already a very anthropocentric view.
Gotta remember to take into account exponential growth too, imagine a single self-replicating probe sucking up resources, then splitting into a couple hundred tiny probes every time it reaches a new star-system and you’d have total galactic coverage within a few tens of thousand years. These probes can be very small, possibly allowing for close to lightspeed propagation, and our galaxy is only 100k lightyears across. At that point, you would have a decent picture of where in the galaxy interesting shit is going to happen at some point, and send out actual first contact fleets. Those diplomats would probably never see their own civilization again, but they might not really care about that.
If UFO’s are real and alien, they would most likely be automated information-gathering probes and who knows if you could even get the attention of their original makers
then splitting into a couple hundred tiny probes every time it reaches a new star-system and you’d have total galactic coverage within a few tens of thousand years.
Ok but those probes would have to all accelerate to those near-light speed velocities as well, that would require insane amounts of energy.
Gotta remember to take into account exponential growth too, imagine a single self-replicating probe sucking up resources, then splitting into a couple hundred tiny probes every time it reaches a new star-system and you’d have total galactic coverage within a few tens of thousand years.
The great filter is because a first contact probe programmer set a variable wrong. Checks out.
