Apparently there’s an issue with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?

  • Bloops@lemmygrad.ml
    3718·
    2 years ago

    why are you dehumanizing the russian people? this is a tactic used by fascists.

    • SwagGaribaldi@lemmy.world
      167·
      2 years ago

      Isn’t orc just a derogatory term for a Russian soldier? That’s what I always thought it meant, and it’s also what Wiktionary says

      • ActuallyASeal@lemmy.world
        74·
        2 years ago

        As far as I know that is correct. I personally don’t like because it’s dehumanizing them when we don’t have to.

        If we were in combat and actually needed to shoot at them and needed to dehhumanize them for our own psychological health that would be one thing. But we are all probably safe sitting on the toilet, so we probably shouldn’t need to resort to it.

        I think it also implies guilt of all Russian soldiers. They are deserving of all protections under international law, mainly getting shot at on the battlefield and a dignified confinement when they surrender or are incapacitated, until proven otherwise. And if they did something horrifying enough to be called an orc, they should probably be hanged, after trial, and not even dignified with discussion.

      • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
        42·
        2 years ago

        It is. Its important to remember that pro russian posters and other posters from authoritarian countries are already here to muddy the waters. Propaganda is the name of the game and these sorts of talking points are their main techniques to derail a conversation.

        See, the problem isn’t the authoritarian government, its racist westerners who just hate anyone. This way they expect you to be tolerant of their actions, while their actions are totally intolerant of others. Its their ide of a moral gotcha.

    • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
      52·
      2 years ago

      Well, acting as an oppressor while claiming you’re a victim is also a fascist tactic. It was literally used by the nazis to assume power.

      And before you go “well so was dehumanizing the jews,” its important to note that the jews were a scapegoat and weren’t actively trying to invade Germany and eliminate their population.

      • aski3252@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 years ago

        its important to note that the jews were a scapegoat and weren’t actively trying to invade Germany and eliminate their population.

        Yeah, it’s also important to note that “the Russian people” as a whole aren’t trying to invade Ukraine and eliminate Ukrainians either…