• artyom@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    Fucking eMotos are a scourge on this Earth. Along with ignorant politicians.

      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 hours ago

        These high power e-motos are being sold as e-bikes, so the legislators are applying their stupid ass law planned for e-motos to slow pedal-assisted e-bikes. That’s just plain idiotic

          • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 hours ago

            There was already classification system, but these idiots decided to lump them all together

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            7 hours ago

            The requirements they’re putting on e-bikes already applied to e-motos. In most states bikes that don’t follow the class 1/2/3 restrictions are regulated like motorcycles.

            The problem is too many people don’t know the distinction, including some people buying the bikes, and many people who are concerned about dangers of e-motos. Manufacturers just want to sell bikes, and compete with each other on speed and power, and so are not incentivized to make the distinction clear. They also want to make sales to people who don’t want to follow the rules, so there’s incentive to leave plausible deniability.

            • ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca
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              5 hours ago

              So it’s lack of regulation? You know how cars have speed limiters? Maybe they need to apply the same to the various types of e-bikes.

              Bicycle? Limit to 20km/h.

              E-scooter? 60km/h and they can’t use bike lanes or highways.

              E-moto? 200km/h limit, can’t use a bike lane.

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                3 hours ago

                They already do this. Or - the law doesn’t impose regulations on manufacturers, but it applies different laws to different classifications of vehicle, which are defined by metrics like top speed. So if a manufacturer wants their product to fit in one classification or another, they must put on speed limiters. Or at least, this is the way the law works in some places, and these laws are fairly standard, as they have been promoted by ebike advocacy groups for years who feared exactly the sort of heavy-handed regulation we are seeing in this post.

                There are, unfortunately, a few problems.

                First is public education. Most people buying any of these products don’t know which classification they are buying, nor that the classifications exist at all, or that different laws apply to different classifications. Governments should take on the responsibility of informing the public about their potential purchases, and sellers should be required to clearly display a vehicles classification when selling in so consumers can make an informed choice.

                Second is aftermarket modifications. While this will almost certainly remain the domain of niche hobbyists, the government should make it clear that if you do modify your vehicle, then it will be considered as part of a new class if it meets those standards and will have to follow those laws.

                Third is infrastructure. Infrastructure for different classifications should be built differently to accomodate its preferred classification and exclude others. We already know how to do this with cars, and we can apply the same techniques to high-powered emotos.