I heard it will be on the Fediverse. Is it true? I heard it had 30 millions users registered on the first day. Wtf. The whole Fediverse doesn’t even have 10 millions users. I heard it will not be available in Europe, yet. I visited https://www.threads.net/ and I don’t know if it’ll be the Threads instance to the Fediverse. There’s nothing at the moment.
I wouldn’t like this contamination in the Fediverse. What are your thoughts?
My problem is, I don’t fully understand how to defederate from it.
For example, if I subscribe to a community on an instance that isn’t defederate from Threads, and I post there, am I handing my data to Threads. I don’t understand where the line is at which my data is protected from Threads.
That is a serious problem for me that would make me stop using the fediverse.
Your posts and comments are public. Anything you post to an instance that is not defederated with Threads can and will show up on Threads. Consider anything you post to pretty much be public domain (yes, even artists who post their pictures should be careful). Nothing is stopping anyone from taking a screencap of your content and posting it there either (this isn’t new). The best course of action is to message the admins of your instance and tell them how you feel about Threads. Tell them to defederate and never look back.
Yes, but taking a screenshot is not even close to being the same as scraping my data.
They’ll scrape this and get a JSON returned with the text. Its technically different but the end result is the same in the context of posts on lemmy.
Federation is managed at an instance level, by the administrators of that instance. Instances can take either an accept-list approach or a block-list approach. As an end user, you choose to de-federate from it by choosing an instance which de-federates from it (or by running your own instance). The moderation / personal block tools on Lemmy aren’t as sophisticated right now as they are on Mastodon, but ideally you should also be able to personally block instances from accessing your account as well.
A lot of third party communication occurs on the Fediverse though. If a community is hosted on server A, you come from server B, and another user comes from server C, it is reasonable to ask if server A will just hand server B’s content (replies, votes, etc.) to server C. On Mastodon, this is the default behavior, unless an instance enables the “Authorized Fetch” option. I am not sure how this works on Lemmy.
For the meantime though, Threads is focused on the microblogging format of social media, and compatibility with Mastodon in particular. Lemmy is probably less at risk. But you should still treat every public post like it is truly public. People run scrapers. People run bots. People can take snapshots on archive.org. Federated platforms are no different in this regard.