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We should defederate from Lemmygrad. - Hexbear
hexbear.netMight be a bad idea for me to go into this while having ptsd issues, especially
when I'm probably about to do a long ass sleep, but yolo. --- Basic synopsis on
my feelings here: * tl;dr: I used to believe we should be federated, but after
3ish years of interacting with lemmygrad on various accounts, I have noticed
that lemmygrad is not a place that is safe for transgender people at large. The
reason for this is principally their debatelord culture and refusing to
comprehend that debating a point against a minority's lived experience, then
demanding civility when that minority gets angry, is the same shit liberals do.
* I noticed instances of reactionary content, such as here
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/459611] and/or comments are not removed or users
banned. Lemmygrad seems to prefer to debate reactionaries, and obviously
subjecting minority groups to reactionary content for personal fun is callous at
best, and reactionary at worst. Its important to make it so that there are
designated areas for dunking on reactionary content, as well as nsfw and content
tags to avoid it. Otherwise, reactionary comments should be removed and visible
in a mod log. * I discussed in this post why it is important to remove downvotes
to protect trans people. [https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2826855] After I noticed
people were creating evasive comments to debate me, I pretty much told them to
fuck off. This resulted in a ban from their admins and they continued to defend
their policy. This reminds me a lot of the struggle sessions we used to have
about adding pronouns to the site or removing downvotes. People would be evasive
in this same way to give the benefit of the doubt then demand civility when
people get angry. Those people are not allies and should be purged. * The admins
seem to have a principle misunderstanding of why minorities don't want to see
any form of harassment or discrimination directed at them and how that is
perpetuated across social media sites. They seem to legitimately believe that
keeping downvotes means that they will be able to stave off reactionary content
or is somehow a valuable tool in responding to reactionary content, when in
reality they should be removing and banning reactionary content. * Certain users
were very keen on civility bullshit, particularly @simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml
[https://lemmygrad.ml/u/simply_surprise], @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml
[https://lemmygrad.ml/u/muad_dibber] (an admin), @davel@lemmygrad.ml
[https://lemmygrad.ml/u/davel]. This is honestly the most disgusting behavior
I've seen on lemmygrad, and the fact that the admins doubled down on it is
fucked. I can see staying federated to a bunch of very small instances,
especially queer focused and hobby instances, but I'm pretty soured on the
fediverse at this point. I'm extremely disappointed in what I've seen of the
lemmygrad mod team. Why are they making me into a splitter over such a basic
issue of avoiding the harassment of trans people at a systemic level, bastards
stalin-stressed
[https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/49ce97a1-cd3d-4104-aff2-652ba59e5780.png]
I am willing to retract this if the admins of lemmygrad self crit and apologize
for temp bans or otherwise of my accounts on civility reasons and make it clear
that debating the lived experience of anyone of a minority group is unacceptable
going forward. There are positive and proactive ways of discussing someone's
lived experience without going into debate territory and trying to find a
technicality in lived experiences to support an opinion you already hold. I
maintain that removing downvotes is a boon to trans users, if you can come up
with something better than that and implement it, I am all ears.
Weird that two troll instances would be defederating from each other. Out trolled?