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Dramatic Shitposter to [CLOSED] FediLore + Fedidrama@lemmy.ca · 2 年前

Hexbear considers defederating from Lemmygrad

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Hexbear considers defederating from Lemmygrad

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Dramatic Shitposter to [CLOSED] FediLore + Fedidrama@lemmy.ca · 2 年前
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We should defederate from Lemmygrad. - Hexbear
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Might be a bad idea for me to go into this while having ptsd issues, especially when I'm probably about to do a long ass sleep, but yolo. --- Basic synopsis on my feelings here: * tl;dr: I used to believe we should be federated, but after 3ish years of interacting with lemmygrad on various accounts, I have noticed that lemmygrad is not a place that is safe for transgender people at large. The reason for this is principally their debatelord culture and refusing to comprehend that debating a point against a minority's lived experience, then demanding civility when that minority gets angry, is the same shit liberals do. * I noticed instances of reactionary content, such as here [https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/459611] and/or comments are not removed or users banned. Lemmygrad seems to prefer to debate reactionaries, and obviously subjecting minority groups to reactionary content for personal fun is callous at best, and reactionary at worst. Its important to make it so that there are designated areas for dunking on reactionary content, as well as nsfw and content tags to avoid it. Otherwise, reactionary comments should be removed and visible in a mod log. * I discussed in this post why it is important to remove downvotes to protect trans people. [https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2826855] After I noticed people were creating evasive comments to debate me, I pretty much told them to fuck off. This resulted in a ban from their admins and they continued to defend their policy. This reminds me a lot of the struggle sessions we used to have about adding pronouns to the site or removing downvotes. People would be evasive in this same way to give the benefit of the doubt then demand civility when people get angry. Those people are not allies and should be purged. * The admins seem to have a principle misunderstanding of why minorities don't want to see any form of harassment or discrimination directed at them and how that is perpetuated across social media sites. They seem to legitimately believe that keeping downvotes means that they will be able to stave off reactionary content or is somehow a valuable tool in responding to reactionary content, when in reality they should be removing and banning reactionary content. * Certain users were very keen on civility bullshit, particularly @simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml [https://lemmygrad.ml/u/simply_surprise], @muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml [https://lemmygrad.ml/u/muad_dibber] (an admin), @davel@lemmygrad.ml [https://lemmygrad.ml/u/davel]. This is honestly the most disgusting behavior I've seen on lemmygrad, and the fact that the admins doubled down on it is fucked. I can see staying federated to a bunch of very small instances, especially queer focused and hobby instances, but I'm pretty soured on the fediverse at this point. I'm extremely disappointed in what I've seen of the lemmygrad mod team. Why are they making me into a splitter over such a basic issue of avoiding the harassment of trans people at a systemic level, bastards stalin-stressed [https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/49ce97a1-cd3d-4104-aff2-652ba59e5780.png] I am willing to retract this if the admins of lemmygrad self crit and apologize for temp bans or otherwise of my accounts on civility reasons and make it clear that debating the lived experience of anyone of a minority group is unacceptable going forward. There are positive and proactive ways of discussing someone's lived experience without going into debate territory and trying to find a technicality in lived experiences to support an opinion you already hold. I maintain that removing downvotes is a boon to trans users, if you can come up with something better than that and implement it, I am all ears.

https://hexbear.net/comment/4154051

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    If they end up with zero federation will they have the self awareness to realize they’re the common denominator?

    • smoothbrain coldtakes@lemmy.ca
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      2 年前

      No.

    • Polar@lemmy.ca
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      It’s the “snowflakes that can’t handle the truth”.

    • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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      The community originally wasn’t federated to begin with

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        though they forked Lemmy in the first place did they not? Not much to federate to back then

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    Weird that two troll instances would be defederating from each other. Out trolled?

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    Hahahahahahaha. Imagine defederating from Lemmygrad over supposedly protecting trans people while continuing to shill for the CCP. Oh my god.

  • apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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    Oh no!

    Anyway

    • Throwaway@lemm.eeBanned
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      Just a heads up, if you have pronouns in your username, people are going to assume you’re from Hexbear.

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        For me the instance name reads right after their username

        • Throwaway@lemm.eeBanned
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          I only see the username on jerboa, I have to tap into see the instance name.

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        lol is this a real thing? does hexbear own pronouns? maybe i’m too old to understand the fediverse culture. grandpa simpson was right.

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          Pronouns as part of the username on lemmy? They’re the only ones doing it enmasse.

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            Pronouns as part of usernames is one of the two things Hexbear does right

            Shame they’re so transphobic in all other regards

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              Ironic, isn’t it? By being transphilic(? I have no idea what the term is) , you mark yourself as part of a transphobic group.

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        Illiterate people.

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    Funny how hexbear acts like they care about lgbtq rights while sucking up to the chinese and russian governments

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    lmao, she said.

    lol.

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    What? An instance I don’t care about might defederate from another instance I don’t care about? WILL THE SUN EVEN RISE TOMORROW?!? WHAT’S THE POINT OF ANYTHING?!?

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      One of the reasons I moved from lemmy.ml to lemmy.ca was to avoid the Hexbear troublemakers. Absolutely not surprised to see they’re still involved in drama.

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        Do I need to be canadian to join you?

        • ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca
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          No, but many of the local communities are Canada-focused.

  • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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    Ooo! Ooo! Now do midwest.social!

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    With the Reddit and Twitter drama my secret suspicion was that our billionaire overlords decided we had too much collective power and that they had to fragment us.

    Our response to their fragmenting was to fragment into tiny spaces and then communicate with one another.

    And now that fragmentation is not enough so we must fragment more until our billionaire overlords are satisfied that each of our tiny collectives have no ability to communicate with one another or organize to prevent them from doing any evil thing that they want to do.

    Congratulations we’ve all been played. Good game, see you on the next go round.

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      I don’t think you understand what’s happening: lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear are two awful Lemmy instances to which every other instance is pretty much defederated at this point. This doesn’t affect anyone but the users of those instances. This is not some conspiracy against Lemmy, and I don’t see any reason why Lemmy would be a victim of such a conspiracy, it’s not big enough for social media companies to care

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        lemmygrad.ml is a real instance full of tankies. Lemmy.ml is the flagship lemmy instance run by the developers. It’s a bit communist flavoured compared to Reddit, but because so many people use it, not really.

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          Oops- I said the wrong instamce

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