• letsgocrazy@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Not all Art has the same value.

    You think someone who delicates their life to musical excellence should get the same as someone who sticks seashells onto things?

    What t about if they only produce one seashell covered mug per week? Per month?

    If only there was some mechanism to objectively measure the value of what we produce.

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      1 year ago

      Do… Do you think that mechanism is market? Like, you seriously think that?

    • Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Recent times have shown two important things to me.

      One: People want to create regardless of any reward related to it. The excuse that people need to be rewarded in order to do anything valuable is completely wrong. People, in general, want to do things that other people find valuable and beneficial and bring joy to other people. We are very social, and that desire is nearly universal. If one has no concerns over their continued comfortable existence, then the vast majority of people would dedicate themselves to something they enjoy which is also useful and helpful to others.

      Two: People will very happily give rewards to those who create things that they want and enjoy. Even people who themselves have little, will give some to those who have brought them happiness and joy with their work and effort. We see this in all the people donating even when they receive nothing in return for it.

      Point two suggests that universal income is theoretically unnecessary, but point two is unreliable. Yes, people will give, but they won’t give in a steady, reliable way that can be counted on to meet another’s needs regularly. And just as importantly, they don’t really give if the quality of the creations are low, which…fair enough, however, this limits the potential creator’s ability to practice and get better, since they cannot devote their efforts to the thing they enjoy that would, if they got good at it, be enjoyed by many; instead they are forced to devote their efforts to continued survival and comfortable existence.

    • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe
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      1 year ago

      People should just be paid to exist at this point regardless of what they contribute.

      Most people are wholly incapable of doing for themselves so just give them subsistence money so they can sit in their house and not bother anybody else.

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        1 year ago

        I think that anyone who wants to contribute somehow in a positive way to their society, environment or country, should get enough money to have their basic needs fulfilled. Being it full-time or part-time work, volunteering or just helping out random people from time to time (pick trash alone somewhere and stuff).

        I don’t approve ending people’s lives because they create harm to others. Of course it’s a whole different thing when you compare a feared dictator who hates humankind versus someone who spends all their time trolling people out of their minds in the Internet just because of the lulz. But I don’t know, what would be a good solution in these or any other cases.