The time travel scenario above includes no further assumptions resulting from the time travel. Helping the rebellion against slavery is its own cause.
I didn’t say they didn’t have other profitable slaving colonies, I said it would likely be different if their most profitable slaving colony remained an asset of the British Empire. Both in terms of proportional and absolute profit, the southern states outproduced all the rest of the British slaver holdings combined - and cotton was key in the burgeoning industries of the UK.
Stopping rich slave owners from establishing total control of an entire continent and the founding of a slave based economic system is its own cause.
On one hand we have the actual historical reality that the Britain (and even the US, eventually) banned slavery despite its profitability. On the other hand, we have your ass. I know which one I think is more likely to produce something that resembles a likely outcome.
Stopping rich slave owners from establishing total control of an entire continent and the founding of a slave based economic system is its own cause.
You mean the slave-based economic system that predated independence? That was cultivated by the British Empire intentionally to alleviate the problem of white indentured servants making demands of British elites? The continent where the Brits were continuously expanding their holdings? That continent?
Fuck outta here with this infantile nationalist bullshit.
On one hand we have the actual historical reality that the Britain (and even the US, eventually) banned slavery despite its profitability. On the other hand, we have your ass. I know which one I think is more likely to produce something that resembles a likely outcome.
“The UK probably would have taken longer to ban slavery if the profits were significantly greater and their industry (reliant on Southern cotton produced by slavery up to the 1860s) was reliant on them not banning slavery in their colonies”
“ur ass”
Sorry that you have such an amazing paucity of ability to analysis hypotheticals. I hope you improve someday.
In the true spirit of the comm, what I meant was “Correct, the British Empire would have brought civilization and humane treatment to the colonies just as it had everywhere else HM’s rule prevailed, if it had just lasted a little longer” 🙏
That’s more like it. Everyone knows that more war leads to more peace, it’s just the way of things. Now back in yer tank and put the kettle on, lad, we’re not engaging the Navajo Light Atomic Brigade without a brew. Let’s make his/her maj proud.
“It’s funny that you’re dismissive about someone displaying a total inability to examine cause and effect or the actual origins of the systems condemned despite it explicitly being pointed out, something that will not be acknowledged so long as the possibility for masturbation over the British Empire remains”
If your cousin-fucking ancestors had died before they could produce an entire country fill of shit humans, the world would be a better place. That is the central premise of my argument. The people who created a country filled with people like you were not fit to run a country and that literally any alternative would have been better.
If your cousin-fucking ancestors had died before they could produce an entire country fill of shit humans, the world would be a better place. That is the central premise of my argument.
Ah, so your argument is based on eugenics. Unsurprising from a supporter of British imperialism.
I do find it amusing that a country made primarily of immigrants is being called “cousin-fuckers” by an insular island led by a family so inbred that it collapsed the entire European royal system.
The people who created a country filled with people like you were not fit to run a country and that literally any alternative would have been better.
This may come as a surprise to someone slobbering on Queen Victoria’s scepter, but British imperialism has produced a great many fucked-up countries by the rampant genocide and exploitation it engaged in. Sorry that I don’t agree that a longer period of British imperialism would have ‘improved’ the lowly colonials. Maybe you just needed to perform a few more genocides to keep the filthy Scotch-Irish mongrels in the colonies down.
The time travel scenario above includes no further assumptions resulting from the time travel. Helping the rebellion against slavery is its own cause.
I didn’t say they didn’t have other profitable slaving colonies, I said it would likely be different if their most profitable slaving colony remained an asset of the British Empire. Both in terms of proportional and absolute profit, the southern states outproduced all the rest of the British slaver holdings combined - and cotton was key in the burgeoning industries of the UK.
Stopping rich slave owners from establishing total control of an entire continent and the founding of a slave based economic system is its own cause.
On one hand we have the actual historical reality that the Britain (and even the US, eventually) banned slavery despite its profitability. On the other hand, we have your ass. I know which one I think is more likely to produce something that resembles a likely outcome.
You mean the slave-based economic system that predated independence? That was cultivated by the British Empire intentionally to alleviate the problem of white indentured servants making demands of British elites? The continent where the Brits were continuously expanding their holdings? That continent?
Fuck outta here with this infantile nationalist bullshit.
“The UK probably would have taken longer to ban slavery if the profits were significantly greater and their industry (reliant on Southern cotton produced by slavery up to the 1860s) was reliant on them not banning slavery in their colonies”
“ur ass”
Sorry that you have such an amazing paucity of ability to analysis hypotheticals. I hope you improve someday.
Sir, this is non credible defense.
You’re absolutely right, what was I thinking!?
In the true spirit of the comm, what I meant was “Correct, the British Empire would have brought civilization and humane treatment to the colonies just as it had everywhere else HM’s rule prevailed, if it had just lasted a little longer” 🙏
That’s more like it. Everyone knows that more war leads to more peace, it’s just the way of things. Now back in yer tank and put the kettle on, lad, we’re not engaging the Navajo Light Atomic Brigade without a brew. Let’s make his/her maj proud.
Ooh, this is one of those arguments
Its funny how mad you are about someone not agreeing with your stupid take on a dumb meme.
“It’s funny that you’re dismissive about someone displaying a total inability to examine cause and effect or the actual origins of the systems condemned despite it explicitly being pointed out, something that will not be acknowledged so long as the possibility for masturbation over the British Empire remains”
Hilarious, even.
Its OK that you are butthurt that the whole world knows that your country is garbage. That must be rough for you.
My country is garbage. That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
No. It actually does.
If your cousin-fucking ancestors had died before they could produce an entire country fill of shit humans, the world would be a better place. That is the central premise of my argument. The people who created a country filled with people like you were not fit to run a country and that literally any alternative would have been better.
Ah, so your argument is based on eugenics. Unsurprising from a supporter of British imperialism.
I do find it amusing that a country made primarily of immigrants is being called “cousin-fuckers” by an insular island led by a family so inbred that it collapsed the entire European royal system.
This may come as a surprise to someone slobbering on Queen Victoria’s scepter, but British imperialism has produced a great many fucked-up countries by the rampant genocide and exploitation it engaged in. Sorry that I don’t agree that a longer period of British imperialism would have ‘improved’ the lowly colonials. Maybe you just needed to perform a few more genocides to keep the filthy Scotch-Irish mongrels in the colonies down.