• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    14 hours ago

    When Kamala embraced every policy that had killed Bidens campaign, while messaging exclusively to republicans. When she had a border cop talk at the DNC while Palestinians were kicked out.

    The dems ignored the people who might vote dem for republicans who will never vote dem.

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      14 hours ago

      I’m not arguing Kamala wasn’t a crap choice. Do the math and admit people said that trump was an acceptable outcome by choosing not to vote. That’s how it works.

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        13 hours ago

        Thats not how elections work no. People aren’t making careful strategic calculations, they simply don’t vote for candidates they don’t believe will help them.

        Triangulation doesn’t work. 99% Hitler loses to 100% Hitler because people who want Hitler vote Hitler and people who want not Hitler are unrepresented. Same reason Hillary lost.

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          13 hours ago

          What? I have no idea what mental math you’re making up. Nobody implied it was strategic.

          The logic is simple. Vote for one or the other. Making the choice to not vote either passively because unenthusiastic candidate or with intent to make a point, is tacitly accepting that the potentially worse outcome is acceptable. Anyone thinking otherwise is willfully ignorant or lying to themselves.

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            Thats not how elections actually work in practice. If it was, triangulating yourself to be 1 inch closer to center than the opposition would win every election. Instead we see people just check out. If Trump started a war, raped children, and stole billions, it wouldn’t meaningfully increase Gavin Newsom’s turnout. Conversely if Trump had been less dogshit, Biden’s numbers would have remained about the same.