Hi everyone. Sorry for a long post, but I’m looking for various input related to buying a camera, so feel free to just comment on any small bit of it if you feel like it. I don’t expect answers to it all, but I’m just so exited to get back into photography after a long break.

The trigger for reviving my passion is that I’m planning a trip to Tokyo this fall 2026. I want to buy a really good camera for the trip to capture everything and finally get back into taking good photos.

I used to own a DSLR Nikon D5200 back in 2013, but over the years I completely stopped using it because it was just too big and bulky to carry so i sold it 2 years ago after not using it for 4 years before that.

Priorities

That’s why i for this trip I want something that is much more compact and cameras have come a long way since 2013. My absolute top priority is size. If the camera isn’t small and easy to carry, I know that I just simply won’t use it enough. Ideally it should almost as easy to bring as my phone.

My next few priorities after size are as follows.

  1. Interchangeable lenses
  2. Excellent video capabilities
  3. Good low light performance
  4. 20-55 mm ish standard lens option to get started
  5. Everything else just needs to be reasonably well balanced
  6. An option for 35mm pancake lens for super compact mode. This is a nice to have addition and the price of it is on top of my budget mentioned below.
  7. Full frame is nice, but i also have to be realistic if i want a super compact body.

What I mean about wanting a camera that is reasonable well balanced is that most cameras are in my opinion pretty good these days so I’ll listen to your recommendations to maximize a balanced performance within my budget. I was happy with the performance of my D5200 so it’s a good benchmark and should be easy to beat i think.

Where to buy and budget

I consider buying a camera when i first get to Tokyo since prices seems a bit lower there but i don’t know for sure yet if that is a good idea so if you have experience there I’d love to hear.

My budget is around 200,000 yen (~1100€) including a decent starter lens. Maybe a bit more if needed or for an additional lens option.

Also if anyone knows of special deals, good Japan-only bundles, or used gear markets that i should consider then I’d love to hear, but it should be pretty easy to get on the first day in Tokyo if it’s not the same price here in EU anyway.

Additional info:

For the trip we currently just have our phones which are an iPhone 16 Pro and a Google Pixel 5a 5G that both take pretty decent casual photos. The camera I’m looking for doesn’t need to replace that, but needs to offer significantly better image and video quality.

I really liked the interface on my Nikon and from what I’ve tried so far, I’m not a big fan of Canon’s interface. No idea about olympus, panasonic etc. never tried them.

Other questions

Does anyone know if there are any language limitations in the camera firmware when buying in Japan? (e.g., Japanese-only menus) ore are there any other region-locked features or restrictions compared to EU models?

I hope to get some input to find the right camera. There are so many options and i feel like it’s easy to go waaay over budget for not that much more.

  • IMALlama@lemmy.world
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    I’m a week late and others have already given you some good answers, so here are some quick thoughts.

    • compact has two components: the body itself and the lens
    • smaller sensors usually result in smaller bodies, but some modern micro four thirds cameras cameras use full frame bodies (looking at you Panasonic) and some full frame bodies like Sony’s A7c are very compact
    • Lenses designed for smaller sensors will be more compact for an equivalent focal length, but you’ll only maximize the size benefits if you get a lens designed for the sensor. For example, you can put full frame glass on an APS-C sensor and it will fully function but if you can find an APS-C native lens it will be smaller. This is actually a strike against Canon, Nikon, and, to a lesser extent, Sony as their current mounts are biased towards full frame glass
    • Low light has two main components: how slow you can let your shutter go and your lens aperture. If your subject is still you need not worry much about low light assuming you can keep the camera steady via stabilization hand holding or a tripod/monopor. If your subject is moving you’ll need to gather light more quickly. There are two ways to gather light more quickly: more sensor surface area and a wider aperture lens. A full frame sensor generally gives you a two stop advantage in terms of noise, so say a f/1.4 lens on a micro four thirds camera would yield similar results as a f/2.8 lens on a full frame body
    • If you consider the prior bullet you can actually make a pretty compact full frame setup. An A7c with sonys 50mm f/2.5 lens is nearly as small as a GM5 with Panasonic’s 25mm f/1.4 lens and the two will achieve pretty similar low light performance. This won’t hold up if you want more reach though. I’m lugging an A9ii around with Tamron’s 150-500 and it’s way bigger than my old D5300 + 70-300 despite similar equivalent focal lengths
    • Some of the most compact cameras are out of production. The greatest camra ever made is a GM5 and it fits your form factor well. The smallest interchangeable lens camera I’ve personally owned was a Nikon J5
    • Older cameras absolutely still take great photos but tend to give up video capability

    I was happy with the performance of my D5200 so it’s a good benchmark and should be easy to beat i think

    The amount of ISO you can get out of somewhat newer/higher tier sensors is great. A fast lens on your D5200 would probably help a ton with low light, but being able to push 12,800 ISO combined with a fast lens means that I don’t own a flash for my current body. As a bonus, mirrorless lenses are generally more compact than their DSLR counterparts

    For the trip we currently just have our phones which are an iPhone 16 Pro and a Google Pixel 5a 5G that both take pretty decent casual photos. The camera I’m looking for doesn’t need to replace that, but needs to offer significantly better image and video quality.

    Cellphones take totally serviceable photos and video given adequate lighting, slow subjects, and “normal-range” focal lengths. I still use a dedicated camera because I have kids that…

    • like lower light situation, especially during the winter. Think museums and other indoor attractions, the holiday displays at the local zoo, etc
    • play sports. You need both good autofocus and reach for this. I’ve been defacto team photographer for four seasons now

    I also find that a dedicated camera puts me in a more creative mood.

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      Thank you so much for all of this info. No worries being “late” the trip is still months away and I intend to sit this one out to make sure i don’t make any hasty decisions. I’m also still looking at buying in Tokyo to get better prices but not sure yet. Currently I’m looking at the OM-3 that seems to be everything I want, but i’m affraid it’ll be too big and bulky. I’m looking for a local store where i can go try holding a bunch of cameras to get a better feel for it. The OM-3 will be a splurge and possibly overkill so having plenty of time until the trip will hopefully make me feel what i actually need and what it’s right for me. The Olympus PEN ep7 is probably a better option for me, but until I have it in my hands I won’t yet be able to tell for sure.

      but some modern micro four thirds cameras cameras use full frame bodies (looking at you Panasonic)

      I totally agree. This is so annoying. Also that size comparing website you linked is awesome. love it and thank you again.

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    4 days ago

    I am late, but I’d avoid Fuji:

    • No HDR HEIF shooting. This is a huge IQ loss for sharing the photos on smartphones/TVs.

    • Funky autofocus

    • Not-so-accurate out of camera colors.

    • Questionable video features.

    • X-Mount is… okay, but native lenses are very expensive.

    I actually went WAAAY down this rabbit hole, in your exact situation, and got a Canon R50V… but I’m going to sell it. I could ramble on about why, if you wish, but in short my recommendation would be:

    • Wait until after May-June-July 2026, when the Canon R7 Mark II drops. Pick up a used Mark 7 I for pennies on the dollar. Pair it with a Yongnuo 23mm prime lens, and an 85mm for subjects/portraits, as these are light and (TBH) the only sanly priced RF lenses out there: https://th.hkyongnuo.com/collections/lens

    • For a flat lens, get the Canon RF 28mm, used. Its a good one.

    Alternatively, push your budget and buy the best Sony crop body you can afford. The A6700 is absolutely worth it if you can swing it in Japan:

    And pair with a set of two of any of these lenses, your preference:

    To summarize, a firesale R7 I is your cheap option. It will be a steal when the R7II releases. A Sony body is your “reach” but has better upgradability down the line due to the better, cheaper, lighter lens ecosystem.

    Some points:

    • Prime lenses are too good not to use. They’re dirt cheap, and suck up gobs of light compared to a zoom. They’re so sharp you can just crop and get a great image. Don’t make the mistake I made: skip the zooms.

    • I repeat: you arent shopping for a camera, you are shopping for a lens ecosystem. This is the most important thing.

    • IBIS is incredible, as it unlocks a whole world of ultralight, sharp, dirt cheap prime lenses you can stabilize perfectly. It’s worth reaching for an R7 or A6700 just for that, as it will save you so much cash in lenses, and you’ll curse at yourself later if you don’t.

    • The A6700 is particularly incredible for video because it supports downsampled 4k60 and has the best phone connectivity. It also supports gyroflow directly, even with IBIS enabled. You can transcode videos right on your smartphone and get them as smooth as silk: https://gyroflow.xyz/

    • The R7 is a better “stills” camera, as it can auto-level with its IBIS along with some other nicities. It’s still excellent at video, as it can shoot downsampled 4K30 in HDR. but it doesn’t support Gyroflow video stabilization. The big caveat is the overpriced Canon lens ecosystem (which is why you pair it with Yongnuos) and its rather buggy phone app. It’s chunkier, yes, but not heavy at all with a light (~320 gram) prime lens.

    Again, I’ve been researching this for months, and there are a zillion different reasons I recommend this (and nothing else), and quirks I know about all sorts of travel cameras.

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    10 days ago

    Hard to beat the m43 system if you’re looking for compact. One of the more modern bodies with a f1.2 prime lens will even do pretty good in low light.

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      Yeah thats what came to mind. And since OP is going to Japan, home of Panasonic and Olympus (well…) they could try and find a kit there.

      I haven’t searched here but there is still an active subreddit for m43.

      Unless OP wants to blow money on Fujifilm, of course.

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      this is new to me. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ve been reading a littel bit about it, but not sure if I understand what it actually is other than just yet another sensor size and lens mount standard. I’ll keep reading on.

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        It’s the longest running mirrorless mount, and being a somewhat open standard has a very wide variety of available lenses.

        The older bodies are really cheap and still really nice cameras. My main is an em5.2 that I paid $300 for, near new, last year. All my $$ is in lenses.

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        It is exactly a sensor size and lens mount standard. Panasonic and Olympus are the main manufacturers, but there have been a couple other niche bodies using it.

        There used to be very small bodies like the Panasonic GM and Olympus Pen Lite series, but none of the current models are especially small with Olympus focusing on wildlife and Panasonic focusing on video. There’s plenty to be found on the used market, but prices have risen on the small bodies recently.

        The system lacks a good 35mm-equivalent pancake (the Olympus 17/2.8 is a bad one), but the 40mm-equivalent Panasonic 20/1.7 is excellent as long as you don’t need fast autofocus.

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    10 days ago

    My absolute top priority is size. If the camera isn’t small and easy to carry, I know that I just simply won’t use it enough. Ideally it should almost as easy to bring as my phone.

    My own travel experience has led me to agree with this priority 100%.

    I figured this out with a different approach, though. In 2022 (or so), when they were dirt cheap on Ebay, I bought a couple of the cameras in this roundup . Which means they’re old. But clone batteries are still cheap and readily available. The Canon in that list will run CHDK alternative firmware, which opens up some new features. And they really are small enough to be “as easy to bring as my phone,” but they have real optical zoom lenses, RAW files, and none of the computational HDR stuff.

    The asking prices for these things have gone bonkers, but they could still be cheaper than the interchangable-lens systems you’re contemplating. I’ve had a ton of fun with mine, way more than I ever anticipated. Having a 400mm zoom in my pants pocket still feels like impossible spy movie stuff to me. One way to see sample pictures from a camera model is to search Flickr for that model, for example: Flickr pictures taken with the Canon SX230HS.

    Best of luck with whatever you decide!

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    10 days ago

    Since size is a must micro four thirds allows for smaller cameras but keep in mind it has some quirks, mainly mft(micro four thirds) is a smaller sensor therefore less quality also due to the sensor construction a 50mm lens would be equal to a 100mm on a full sensor

    Dp buying guide is pretty good and it has link to buy it. https://www.dpreview.com/buying-guides

    Second hand camera shop

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    10 days ago

    My absolute top priority is size

    Olympus PEN F (or other PEN models), with the 14/42 pancake lens (not the other cheap 14/42 lens) fits into your shirt pocket

    2.Excellent video capabilities

    Panasonic (I don’t know their model names) are even better for video than Olympus, and they are small, but not that small.

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      10 days ago

      thank you for this input. this camera cannot be found in my home country (Denmark) so it’s definitely a nice candidate. it’s tiny and quite cheap… you know of some reviews I can look through.

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    I just recently looked into the small camera market and ended up buying the new Fuji XT-30. Your budget is reasonable I think, although you may have to compromise on the video and/or low light capabilities.

    The XT-30 is great and with the 27mm pancake would match most of your criteria and your budget. And it easily fits in most bigger pockets. You could also take a look at the new Fuji X-E5.

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    10 days ago

    Went down this exact rabbit hole this weekend except I’m looking for used.

    My list: (with different pros and cons)

    Fuji x100 Vii

    Leica something

    Lumix gx9

    Sony rx100 ii (no interchangeable lens)

    Canon g7x III (no interchangeable lens)

    These are the small ones… I would even say the Fuji is too big. Anything more than a pancake is also not small enough (which is sometimes limiting) hence I listed the last 2.

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      8 days ago

      Its been recommended a few times now so probably worth checking out. It does still look a bit big to me but maybe I can find a local store to hold it or a similar camera to get a better feel for it