• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPEnglish
        5·
        13 days ago

        Interactions with people aren’t prizes, and shouldn’t be conceptualized as such.

        “Humans have needs and desires” and “Humans should conceptualize the fulfillment of their needs and desires as separate from the people they interact (and resulting consequences) with to achieve them” are two different things.

        Most basic idea, do unto others. People sometimes want to feel wanted, even in just a purely carnal sense; people generally do not want to feel treated like an object, an abstract, or a piece of meat in the process.

          • PugJesus@piefed.socialOPEnglish
            4·
            13 days ago

            I am also not talking about all human interactions but specifically sex, which is goal oriented and has a very clear concept of a prize (a reward) if you think in terms of reinforcement learning.

            Okay, let me rephrase this again, in light of that wording of your position:

            “Do not treat human beings simply as means to achieve a goal, even if the human being is necessary for that goal.”

              • Velma@lemmy.today
                21·
                13 days ago

                It is true that humans are more than what their biology sets them to be, but obscuring the actual goal in language seems to be a repressive enactment.

                It’s repressive to ask men to not view women only as sexual conquests because of biology?

          • Velma@lemmy.today
            4·
            13 days ago

            Wouldn’t the “prize” be the act of sex and not the woman herself? You are not granted ownership of a woman just by having sex with her.