• TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What we need to do is get rid of FPTP, because so long as that’s how the system works breaking away will only guarantee that the fascists win permanently.

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        1 year ago

        I think the sad fact is many people in the US are okay with financing genocide as long as they don’t have to hear Trump’s name or suffer any consequences personally. As long as some kind of right wing boogeymany exists, you can convince most democratic voters that genocide is permissable enough to not disqualify a candidate.

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          I think the sad thing is people thinking that if it were Trump instead of Biden right now, there wouldn’t be any genocide. When in fact trump would be supporting genocide both in Gaza and in Ukraine.

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            1 year ago

            So how much genocide in your opinion is okay to vote for under the suspicion that someone else might also do a genocide?

            Because either you’re admitting theres no way to vote ourselves out of genocide or that joes genocides is okay because someone else MAY also preside over genocide. Thats a new one, this genocide is acceptable because if it wasn’t this, it would just be another genocide, do I have that right?

            Im of the opinion that I cannot materially support genocide. Call it single issue voterism if you want but to me never again means never again, not never again unless maybe the someone else would also finance genocide. Having boundaries is healthy and just, and if genocide is only a soft boundary for someone then I place no value in what they have to say.

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            We’d still get genocide regardless of who the president is. The killing machine operates the same no matter who pulls the levers.

            I won’t vote for genocide.

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                No it’s not.

                Their point was that liberals are okay with genocide under Democrats, but if Trump was president they’d be against it. No one thinks that, if Trump were president, there wouldn’t be a genocide. The genocide is non negotiable.

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        1 year ago

        Do you prefer

        1. Genocide, drone strikes, mass deportations, legal abortion, Supreme Court judges who aren’t having massive ethics scandals, regulations, etc

        or

        1. Genocide, drone strikes, mass deportation, abortion bans, Supreme Court judges with giant ethics scandals, deregulation, tax cuts for billionaires, etc?

        Both parties are similarly shitty on some things, but are pretty different on other issues. Are you really indifferent to all the issues they differ on?

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          1 year ago

          You’re oversimplifying.

          Under Trump, Democrats would oppose genocide. I guarantee if Trump was president the Democrats would be fighting against him.

          Under Biden, even Bernie is falling in line. It’s disgusting.