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it’s a swole doge vs cheems meme

on swole doge side, there are two popups: kCrash and Ubuntu apport. Both have options to see detailed logs and an optional button to send report to developers, along with options to close the popup.
accompanied is a text that reads “Here’s the information. What do you wish to do?”

on crying cheems side, there’s popup for windows and mac. windows has just a cancel button with report being sent already. mac has ignore and report button. there is no option to see logs without reporting on both. here, accompanied text reads, “let’s add this to the personally identifiable information we have on you.”

  • zaphod@feddit.de
    46·
    1 year ago

    On MacOS if you click on the “Report…” button it expands to something similar to what you see on the left.

      • example@reddthat.com
        7·
        1 year ago

        I’m pretty sure this only goes to Apple, not to the actual developer.

        I believe I’ve even seen devs specifically ask for copies of the reports from the crash reporter, as they wouldn’t receive them otherwise.

        this doesn’t change the rest of your statement though, just afaik the recipient is different.

          • example@reddthat.com
            1·
            1 year ago

            based on https://help.apple.com/xcode/mac/current/#/deve2819c518 it seems like users may need to explicitly enable sharing crash data with app developers.

            I don’t know what the default for this is.

            https://help.apple.com/xcode/mac/current/#/dev9a80ab71d seems to imply that you need to distribute your app via app store or testflight to be able to receive crash reports.
            the majority of apps installed on my mac are not installed via app store, though many of them have app store variants.
            i don’t know if the distribution channel matters or just having the app in app store is enough.
            this article however also explicitly states this, so it appears that you do indeed by default not send this data to app developers:

            users who download your app from the App Store will need to agree to share crash and usage data with developers.

    • lemmesayOPEnglish
      126·
      1 year ago

      thanks! never clicked that for fear that they’d do something similar to windows.
      I’ll try it next time it comes up.

      maybe there should be a third button for less confusion? or does it go against apple’s “design” principles? :p

      • zaphod@feddit.de
        31·
        1 year ago

        To demonstrate I got an app to crash, this is what you see when you click on the report button. The report is longer, trying to show where the app crashed, at the bottom there’s a button to send a report to apple

        • lemmesayOPEnglish
          15·
          1 year ago

          looks much better than what I’d thought. thanks for sharing mate! BTW, the interface is in French, right?

          • zaphod@feddit.de
            9·
            1 year ago

            Yes, on the bottom it says on the left to hide the details, and on the right don’t send and send to apple.

      • lemmesayOPEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        update: doesn’t have button on my machine.
        just two buttons: show/hide details, and report. can’t even go back or close it.

        screenshot of pop-up after report was clicked same poou-up, just expanded

      • AnActOfCreation@programming.dev
        2·
        1 year ago

        maybe there should be a third button for less confusion?

        I think it’s fine as is. Three dots after a button / menu item imply more interaction is required before an action is taken.