Riiight… because the average Russian is gaining so much by this war? Just like the average USian benefited so much from the US occupation of Afghanistan?
The Russian oligarchy, which is the current ruling class of Russia and descends from Soviet bureaucrats and mobsters, did stand to benefit greatly. Russia isn’t a democracy, so it’s only natural that the government doesn’t care about the people.
The occupation of Afghanistan was incredibly popular among the American people when it began largely because Afghanistan was harboring people who, y’know, committed the biggest terror attack in history against the United States. It only became unpopular once it turned into a slog, and the reason we took so long to leave is because our withdrawal from Iraq went terribly and we didn’t want a repeat. Nobody gained much from it.
Do you mean the social programs they only have because Swedish and Finnish elites feared a Russian-style revolution so much? Those social programs?
Am I supposed to be defeated by this? Democracy works because of an agreement between the government and the people, wherein the government serves the interests of the people and is run by bureaucrats chosen by the people, and in exchange the people do not rebel against it and allow it to do government stuff. Of course democratic governments implement social programs out of fear of social instability, that’s a feature, not a bug.
Russia’s “shitty economic system” was created by the west’s rapacious “shock doctrine” of the 90s, dipshit. Get your facts straight.
Shock therapy was invented by the former leader of the RSFSR after he overthrew Mikhail Gorbachev, in order to turn the centrally planned Soviet economy into a free market economy. In the process, it ended up creating the oligarchy, made up of former Soviet bureaucrats and organized criminals. Everyone in the Russian upper class today got there because they took advantage of the absolute garbage system used by the USSR.
Riiiight… because imaginary lines drawn on a map must (somehow) be genetically encoded in humans by some kind of capitalist magic.
Humans are wired to be tribalistic and to view land as their tribal property, and to get violent over resources during times of scarcity so that their tribe survives the winter. If you pay attention in history class, you’ll see that humans have done this in some form from the stone age to the modern era. Nationalism is just human tribalism taken to the extreme, kinda like socialism is just envy taken to the extreme.
I guess you can’t tell the difference between a Russian capitalist and the average Russian citizen, huh?
Afghanistan was harboring people who
Oh, are you talking about that guy that was found in Pakistan? That the guy you are talking about? Also… 9/11 wasn’t a “terror” attack. If the US wants to play colonialist empire, it becomes a justifiable target. All of it.
Democracy works
Stop using terms you don’t understand. You have never experienced democracy, and you know nothing about it.
Shock therapy was invented
No, Clyde… get this right - “shock therapy” was invented by the Chicago Boys in the 70s and 80s… Chilean “students” of magical capitalist grifters such as Milton Friedman. Your history is as garbage as your politics.
Humans are wired to be tribalistic
Then you should have no trouble providing proof of this “tribal” gene whose existence you are peddling, Clyde. I hope this won’t take you long.
Cry about it, I guess.
Having tears in one’s eyes is still far better than having shoe polish on one’s tongue - it doesn’t matter if it’s over-priced shoe polish.
Oh, are you talking about that guy that was found in Pakistan?
I know you’re a communist and therefore aren’t able to understand things about the world, but you have to know that people can, y’know, move around, right?
Also… 9/11 wasn’t a “terror” attack. If the US wants to play colonialist empire, it becomes a justifiable target. All of it.
By this logic, the USA should’ve committed genocide in Afghanistan like the Soviets did because if Afghanistan wants to play terrorist they become a justifiable target. But I’m sure you’ll come up with pretzel logic to say that that’s somehow not what you’re saying.
Stop using terms you don’t understand. You have never experienced democracy, and you know nothing about it.
The United States invented freedom, liberty, democracy, and McDonald’s. I should know a thing or two about all of that.
No, Clyde… get this right - “shock therapy” was invented by the Chicago Boys in the 70s and 80s… Chilean “students” of magical capitalist grifters such as Milton Friedman. Your history is as garbage as your politics.
Who cares, the only people who actually implemented it that anyone cares about are Boris Yeltsin and his colleagues in Eastern Europe.
Then you should have no trouble providing proof of this “tribal” gene whose existence you are peddling, Clyde. I hope this won’t take you long.
Look, look, look, I know you’re a communist, but you have to be able to understand that genetics are complicated, right? It’s not possible for me to give you one or two genes that are responsible for human psychology, there’s like thousands of them that all interact with eachother to make you act like you.
I guess this is what happens when you lack the ability to comprehend anything that isn’t quantifiable. Thank you, materialism!
Having tears in one’s eyes is still far better than having shoe polish on one’s tongue - it doesn’t matter if it’s over-priced shoe polish.
bourgeois shoe polish tastes better than Stasi shoe polish lmao
Did you figure that out before or after you endorsed the slaughter of tens of thousands of Afghans, bootlicker?
He was in Afghanistan when we invaded.
Does the thought of the US committing genocide get you all hot and bothered, fascism-boi?
Not nearly as much as when the US invaded Afghanistan and only killed 46k civilians, far lower than when the Soviets killed a third of the entire country’s population in their invasion. The moral superiority of the neoliberal bourgeois world order makes my dick hard.
I’ll take your word for it, fascist - the taste of shoe polish is your area of expertise. Not mine.
ya, I guess communists don’t taste very much of anything after the revolution, which is why they’re all sickly and emaciated
Riiiiiight… they just hid him from you for years for shits and giggles. Never mind the fact that all the funding and intelligence support for the 9/11 operation came from Saudi Arabia - yet another country you failed to invade.
most of the untimely deaths of the 20th century happened in the communist world after all
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Talking about evidence… will you be taking long providing some for those “tribalistic” genes you were bragging about a few replies ago?
I’m actually voting for Joe Biden
Why? Because all the “Great White Hope”-wannabes lining up in the GOP are so cartoonishly loopy that even Heinrich Himmler himself would be embarrassed to be in the same room as them?
Fuck… is there any part of your brain that isn’t infected by right-wing brain-rot?
Riiiiiight… they just hid him from you for years for shits and giggles. Never mind the fact that all the funding and intelligence support for the 9/11 operation came from Saudi Arabia - yet another country you failed to invade.
Our failure to wipe Saudi Arabia off the map when we had an excuse to do so is one that I regret every day, but the fact of the matter is that the Taliban were harboring Al-Qaeda and refusing to cooperate in our search for them while Pakistan wasn’t. Also, America’s actions in the Middle East make sense when you remember that the economy would collapse if they decided to stop selling us fossil fuels. Unfortunate and scummy, yes, but I’d avoid pissing off my fuel source as well.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Talking about evidence… will you be taking long providing some for those “tribalistic” genes you were bragging about a few replies ago?
Studies have found that heritability affects everything from extroversion/introversion, disgust response, how compassionate someone is, how likely someone is to experience certain types of mental illness, testosterone and estrogen levels, and even whether someone is likely to be politically leftist or politically right wing, and when we selectively breed animals, we can get animals with completely different temperaments, but the idea that natural selection might’ve caused humans to have an affinity for the tribes we’ve been living in for the past few million years? Complete blasphemy, right?
Actually, scratch that, just look at human behavior and how people living in the same country and in the same economic class will find reasons to dislike eachother even in countries where ethnic tension is suppressed. Serbs, Bosniaks, and Croats lived in the same regions, were all equally poor, speak the same language, are genetically almost exactly the same, and share the vast majority of their culture with eachother, and as soon as Tito died and stopped suppressing tensions between them, they started hating on eachother for basically no reason at all and then started a war over it. There are many such cases in history where people will hate eachother for almost no reason, especially during times of scarcity or hardship. As it turns out, most people will choose their tribe over their economic class when the going gets rough.
Also, genetics is complicated as hell and sometimes simple observation of behavior has to do. You don’t expect the same burden of proof when you assume that humans are all altruistic, as well, since you treat that like an article of faith for a religion.
Why? Because all the “Great White Hope”-wannabes lining up in the GOP are so cartoonishly loopy that even Heinrich Himmler himself would be embarrassed to be in the same room as them?
I have no idea what you’re talking about nor do I give a shit, I like Joe Biden’s policies better than the Republicans and think he’s more likely to win than people who’d do better than him. Simple as.
The Russian oligarchy, which is the current ruling class of Russia and descends from Soviet bureaucrats and mobsters, did stand to benefit greatly. Russia isn’t a democracy, so it’s only natural that the government doesn’t care about the people.
The occupation of Afghanistan was incredibly popular among the American people when it began largely because Afghanistan was harboring people who, y’know, committed the biggest terror attack in history against the United States. It only became unpopular once it turned into a slog, and the reason we took so long to leave is because our withdrawal from Iraq went terribly and we didn’t want a repeat. Nobody gained much from it.
Am I supposed to be defeated by this? Democracy works because of an agreement between the government and the people, wherein the government serves the interests of the people and is run by bureaucrats chosen by the people, and in exchange the people do not rebel against it and allow it to do government stuff. Of course democratic governments implement social programs out of fear of social instability, that’s a feature, not a bug.
Shock therapy was invented by the former leader of the RSFSR after he overthrew Mikhail Gorbachev, in order to turn the centrally planned Soviet economy into a free market economy. In the process, it ended up creating the oligarchy, made up of former Soviet bureaucrats and organized criminals. Everyone in the Russian upper class today got there because they took advantage of the absolute garbage system used by the USSR.
Humans are wired to be tribalistic and to view land as their tribal property, and to get violent over resources during times of scarcity so that their tribe survives the winter. If you pay attention in history class, you’ll see that humans have done this in some form from the stone age to the modern era. Nationalism is just human tribalism taken to the extreme, kinda like socialism is just envy taken to the extreme.
Cry about it, I guess.
I guess you can’t tell the difference between a Russian capitalist and the average Russian citizen, huh?
Oh, are you talking about that guy that was found in Pakistan? That the guy you are talking about? Also… 9/11 wasn’t a “terror” attack. If the US wants to play colonialist empire, it becomes a justifiable target. All of it.
Stop using terms you don’t understand. You have never experienced democracy, and you know nothing about it.
No, Clyde… get this right - “shock therapy” was invented by the Chicago Boys in the 70s and 80s… Chilean “students” of magical capitalist grifters such as Milton Friedman. Your history is as garbage as your politics.
Then you should have no trouble providing proof of this “tribal” gene whose existence you are peddling, Clyde. I hope this won’t take you long.
Having tears in one’s eyes is still far better than having shoe polish on one’s tongue - it doesn’t matter if it’s over-priced shoe polish.
I know you’re a communist and therefore aren’t able to understand things about the world, but you have to know that people can, y’know, move around, right?
By this logic, the USA should’ve committed genocide in Afghanistan like the Soviets did because if Afghanistan wants to play terrorist they become a justifiable target. But I’m sure you’ll come up with pretzel logic to say that that’s somehow not what you’re saying.
The United States invented freedom, liberty, democracy, and McDonald’s. I should know a thing or two about all of that.
Who cares, the only people who actually implemented it that anyone cares about are Boris Yeltsin and his colleagues in Eastern Europe.
Look, look, look, I know you’re a communist, but you have to be able to understand that genetics are complicated, right? It’s not possible for me to give you one or two genes that are responsible for human psychology, there’s like thousands of them that all interact with eachother to make you act like you.
I guess this is what happens when you lack the ability to comprehend anything that isn’t quantifiable. Thank you, materialism!
bourgeois shoe polish tastes better than Stasi shoe polish lmao
Did you figure that out before or after you endorsed the slaughter of tens of thousands of Afghans, bootlicker?
Does the thought of the US committing genocide get you all hot and bothered, fascism-boi?
More words you don’t understand the meaning of.
Oh, is that your response when your alt-history gets debunked?
I’ll take your word for it, fascist - the taste of shoe polish is your area of expertise. Not mine.
He was in Afghanistan when we invaded.
Not nearly as much as when the US invaded Afghanistan and only killed 46k civilians, far lower than when the Soviets killed a third of the entire country’s population in their invasion. The moral superiority of the neoliberal bourgeois world order makes my dick hard.
ya, I guess communists don’t taste very much of anything after the revolution, which is why they’re all sickly and emaciated
And you failed to invade Pakistan when he was there, eh? That’s pretty sloppy, fascist.
Yeah, I figured you’re the kind that gets off on dead bodies.
Lick harder, bootlicker - Papa Trump can’t see his own reflection in his shoes yet.
Well ya, that’s because Pakistan was cooperative
If I liked dead bodies I’d become a communist, most of the untimely deaths of the 20th century happened in the communist world after all
I’m actually voting for Joe Biden
Riiiiiight… they just hid him from you for years for shits and giggles. Never mind the fact that all the funding and intelligence support for the 9/11 operation came from Saudi Arabia - yet another country you failed to invade.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Talking about evidence… will you be taking long providing some for those “tribalistic” genes you were bragging about a few replies ago?
Why? Because all the “Great White Hope”-wannabes lining up in the GOP are so cartoonishly loopy that even Heinrich Himmler himself would be embarrassed to be in the same room as them?
Fuck… is there any part of your brain that isn’t infected by right-wing brain-rot?
Our failure to wipe Saudi Arabia off the map when we had an excuse to do so is one that I regret every day, but the fact of the matter is that the Taliban were harboring Al-Qaeda and refusing to cooperate in our search for them while Pakistan wasn’t. Also, America’s actions in the Middle East make sense when you remember that the economy would collapse if they decided to stop selling us fossil fuels. Unfortunate and scummy, yes, but I’d avoid pissing off my fuel source as well.
Studies have found that heritability affects everything from extroversion/introversion, disgust response, how compassionate someone is, how likely someone is to experience certain types of mental illness, testosterone and estrogen levels, and even whether someone is likely to be politically leftist or politically right wing, and when we selectively breed animals, we can get animals with completely different temperaments, but the idea that natural selection might’ve caused humans to have an affinity for the tribes we’ve been living in for the past few million years? Complete blasphemy, right?
Actually, scratch that, just look at human behavior and how people living in the same country and in the same economic class will find reasons to dislike eachother even in countries where ethnic tension is suppressed. Serbs, Bosniaks, and Croats lived in the same regions, were all equally poor, speak the same language, are genetically almost exactly the same, and share the vast majority of their culture with eachother, and as soon as Tito died and stopped suppressing tensions between them, they started hating on eachother for basically no reason at all and then started a war over it. There are many such cases in history where people will hate eachother for almost no reason, especially during times of scarcity or hardship. As it turns out, most people will choose their tribe over their economic class when the going gets rough.
Also, genetics is complicated as hell and sometimes simple observation of behavior has to do. You don’t expect the same burden of proof when you assume that humans are all altruistic, as well, since you treat that like an article of faith for a religion.
I have no idea what you’re talking about nor do I give a shit, I like Joe Biden’s policies better than the Republicans and think he’s more likely to win than people who’d do better than him. Simple as.