Their foot steps sound like they just have 2 pegs for feet… they hit so hard.

And they frequently, almost daily, spend the entire evening stomping around the entire footprint of their apartment.

Are there people who really just get the top floor, and think “I’m so smart, and everyone else can get fucked” then proceed to make all the fucking noise in the world?

  • Uranium3006@kbin.social
    391·
    11 months ago

    we need to put sound insulation into the building codes. it won’t increase rents much since all the money’s in the land anyways. personally I’ve never had an actual issue with noise form other units but I’ll grant this to the people who do.

    • tal@lemmy.today
      74·
      11 months ago

      I don’t really want to force a specific bottom limit on sound insulation, which is what that would do, though.

      Some people won’t care as much as others relative to price and may not want to pay what it’d cost. And some people may want a much-quieter unit than any bottom limit would place.

      The problem is that they can’t make an informed decision now because the information isn’t available.

      • vividspecter@lemm.ee
        11·
        11 months ago

        Might be worth just mandating it since you can also fix thermal efficiency issues at the same time. And that affects everyone since poor thermal efficiency = more pressure on the electricity grid and increased risks of extreme cold and heat to individuals.

        But transparency would certainly be better than nothing.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
        1·
        11 months ago

        The problem is the information isn’t available. There’s no place to leave reviews of apartments. That seems like a no-brainer to me.

    • yacht_boy@lemmy.world
      2·
      11 months ago

      First, IBC has had this as code for at least 15 years.

      The International Building Code (IBC) establishes minimum requirements for airborne and impact performance of multifamily buildings. The minimum code requirement is STC 50 and IIC 50. Since many factors can affect the transmission of sound in the field, including non-standardized source and receiver rooms as well as construction tolerances, a field measurement (ASTC or AIIC) of three to five points below the lab measurement is acceptable to meet code requirements.

      As the understanding increased of how STC and IIC ratings correlate with occupant comfort, the International Code Council (ICC) issued ICC G2-2010, “Guideline for Acoustics,” which established two additional levels of acoustical performance:

      acceptable, defined as STC 55 and IIC 55; and preferred amount of isolation as STC 60 and IIC 60

      Second, all the money is most definitely not in the land. As a general ballpark, developers want the land to be under 1/4 of the total cost of the project.

      • Uranium3006@kbin.social
        1·
        11 months ago

        Nice. How effective is that minimum standard? Most currently existing buildings are of course older than 15 years so most people won’t have experienced it. Sadly these days anywhere remotely urban has way more than 1/4 the cost as land, espically for already existing buildings

      • slowwooderrunsdeep@lemmy.world
        3·
        11 months ago

        It is, but LEED was kind of a flash-in-the-pan fad for tax breaks and hardly any developers strive for a LEED certificate anymore (exception I’ve seen is govt projects). the cost of LEED certification is too much for most developers to stomach.

        Nowadays I mostly see LEED as an extra set of letters in a person’s email signature.