• Pohl@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Nothing makes me smirk like the rest of the world bragging to Americans that they use Facebook to text. Yeah guys, you nailed it. Big win. We’re over here using standard protocols like rubes. I’m sure you get all kinds of security from that free app from Mr Zuckerberg. lol

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      7 months ago

      I’m all for discrediting Facebook services for better alternatives, but Whatsapp employs End to End encryption by default, while SMS is readable from your ISP and anyone intercepting your conversation.

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          7 months ago

          Facebook messenger has never claimed to be e2e encrypted

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            “Facebook Messenger offers end-to-end encryption, meaning chats between two users will be visible only on users’ phones and aren’t readable by Facebook or any government entity that makes a legal request to the company. But the option is available only to people using the Messenger app on mobile devices, and messages are encrypted only after users select the option to mark chats as “secret.””

            From their linked article.

            It’s insane to only have E2EE as an opt in feature.

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              I guess it’s because they added it later so they can claim to have it while still being able to datamine the average user. Not that insane given that it’s Facebook. I’d say what’s insane is that’s the same as what Telegram does and some people think that’s secure!

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              7 months ago

              The comment I replied to wasn’t

              Fbook Messenger, which is also supposed to be E2EE

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          7 months ago

          When you send sms, you might as well be sending smoke signals. Not as if sms is secure in any modern sense of the word…

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        Facebook makes money selling data for advertising. They don’t host and maintain what’s app for the good of mankind. every single thing you send on the app is being harvested for data and you know it. It is decrypted at each end and hovered up for sale to the highest bidder.

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          I don’t use Facebook and neither should you. Whatsapp is their only decent product, probably because it was bought when it was already decent.

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        Ahh yes, iphones, the only devices capable of SMS. /s I guarantee they’re not an iphone owner. They used the word “protocol” and “rubes”. Iphone owners don’t know that non-imessage texting is called SMS.