- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
“Verizon royally fucked up,” Poppy told me in a phone call. “There’s no way around it.” Verizon, she added, was “100% at fault.”
Verizon handed Poppy’s personal data, including the address on file and phone logs, to a stalker who later directly threatened her and drove to an address armed with a knife. Police then arrested the suspect, Robert Michael Glauner, who is charged with fraud and stalking offenses, but not before he harassed Poppy, her family, friends, workplace, and daughter’s therapist, Poppy added. 404 Media has changed Poppy’s name to protect her identity.
Glauner’s alleged scheme was not sophisticated in the slightest: he used a ProtonMail account, not a government email, to make the request, and used the name of a police officer that didn’t actually work for the police department he impersonated, according to court records. Despite those red flags, Verizon still provided the sensitive data to Glauner.
Remarkably, in a text message to Poppy sent during the fallout of the data transfer, a Verizon representative told Poppy that the corporation was a victim too. “Whoever this is also victimized us,” the Verizon representative wrote, according to a copy of the message Poppy shared with 404 Media. “We are taking every step possible to work with the police so they can identify them.”
In the interview with 404 Media, Poppy pointed out that Verizon is a multi-billion dollar company and yet still made this mistake. “They need to get their shit together,” she said.
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Bullshit, Verizon isn’t a victim at all - they fucked up, they should own up to their mistake instead of trying to go “me too!” to a situation where a stalker harassed their customer and their family after giving said stalker the customer’s personal information.
“We are taking every step possible to work with the police so they can identify them.”
Yeah just make sure it’s the actual police.
Seriously? What a stupid mistake to make. There should always be internal processes right?
Yup. I used to work for a much smaller tech company, and we had a perfectly reasonable process for dealing with cour orders and search warrants that involved crazy things like “get it in hard copy”, and “verify the information contained in the order”.
For some things, we would even just ask the officer to physically come in and that was weirdly never a problem.And now they will probably overcompensate with frustrating security theatre beyond sensible precautions.
I see no problem whatsoever with having frustrating levels of obtuse security required before complying with a request from law enforcement.
There is no downside.
Maybe I am missing a joke, but why would a service provider need to jump through any security hoops to comply with a request from law enforcement?
You mean like… verifying it is a legitimate request from law enforcement? That kind of security hoop? Ensuring there is a warrant or subpoena? Ensuring proper security in transmitting the sensitive personal information?
Civil rights matter more than making cops’ jobs easy.
OK but that would be entirely different security questions from the ones they ask clients.
I was talking about how frustrating it gets for clients, eg for social security I am a nominee for my Mother. I have to verify details of myself (since I am also on SS) then give them a password for my access to Mum, then (this is the stupid part) give them the details of Mum.
It is entirely redundant by the last stage and it may just be theatre or they may be doing it to piss people off so that they get angry and so the SS agent has an excuse to hang up. In Australia they are notorious for making things difficult and the subject of a Royal Commission which determined they are guilty of illegal shitfuckery (although I don’t think the RC used that term).
Well the difference is, in this case it would be an increase in requirements in the situation that law enforcement requests information. I don’t see how that, if implemented correctly, should affect the average person. Huge emphasis on that ‘if.’
Oh dear, I forgot the point of the article, sorry. The guy was pretending to be a police officer. Thank you everyone for being tolerant of me. I don’t know if I should delete my comment now or not.
She could tell it was Verizon’s fault because the stalker kept calling her, asking, 'Can you hear me now?"
…a Verizon representative told Poppy that the corporation was a victim too.
Fuck off. You’re all a bunch of idiots who didn’t do an extremely quick search online to find an officer of that name in that area. Or at the very least call the police in that area to confirm said person isn’t a fraudster! Large corporations need to stop gaslighting us into thinking that when they fuck up that they’re victims!
To be fair if Poppy got killed they would have lost a customer and the income from that customer. How would they recover from that?
I don’t know how other people see it but the way I see it is if a company makes as much money as Verizon does then there is no excuse for this to happen. They have more than enough money to prevent this from happening tenfold but instead of investing money into the company CEOs get paid. With that being said, I believe that if there are any issues in a company, the CEO should be a 100% responsible. If they are going to get paid more money than anyone else than they should be doing more work than anyone else and if bad things are happening below them. That means they’re not doing their due diligence.
Verizon was also threatened with a knife.
The stalker probably assaulted them with a thumbs down on Twitter.
