• NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    You can hide behind whatever words you want to try to make you feel better.

    I may not be able to stop it, but to my dying day I will do my best to make sure never to support israel .

    I will encourage everyone I know to do the same.

    I will make sure that future generations see that israel is no longer deserving of our help, only our disdain for their killing of innocents.

    For their mockery of innocent children dying in pain, pouring out water just to taunt people who are without, and calling them animals, and if the “nation” of israel falls, well I guess I’ll have a coke.

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      10 months ago

      and if the “nation” of israel falls

      Now THAT is closer to genocidal thoughts and tendencies. Thanks for providing the example.

      Good job me. It didn’t even take me more than a couple of posts to get you to start calling for Israeli genocide nonironically.

      The irony here is strong, but it is also what I expected of you. Well, I thought it take at least a few more posts, not this quickly.


      No one wants the Gaza civilians to suffer. The enemy here is Hamas, who absolutely do not represent Gaza in general. With luck, we can resurrect the PLO or something and get them good leaders (or at least better leaders than Hamas) who will actually look out for the Gaza civilians.

      But for now, Hamas needs to go. Israel is certainly a brutal people so we can’t expect Israel to come up with a proper peace plan. But the dismantling of Hamas is a step forward we all should be looking forward to.

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          10 months ago

          So I should just ignore the Death to Israel and “From the river to the Sea” means what, exactly?

          The issue at hand here is that Hamas absolutely wishes to genocide Israel. It’s literally the explicit purpose of Hamas.

          Israel feeling a bit touchy about that is natural. We need to hold Israel back from actually genociding the people here, but let’s not actually pretend that anything aside from Israel’s military is physically protecting them from this problem.

          So it’s full irony to claim Israel is genocide Gaza when it’s instead Hamas who is trying to genocide Israel.

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            10 months ago

            you can oppose the existence of a state without opposing the existence of the people ruled by that state.

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              10 months ago

              I know y’all Liberals hate ethno-states and all, but good luck setting up a liberal democracy in that region lol.

              Israel doesn’t particularly care for the Palestinians and that is definitely a problem. But letting the other regional powers (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Palestine, Syrians) take over would cause a complete slaughter of Israelis and Jewish people immediately. I guarantee it.

              Anyone who disagrees with me is hugely ignorant of the history of that region.

              What makes this whole situation so problematic is that Genocide is normal in that region. Kurds we’re probably going to be wiped out if it weren’t for our involvement in Iraq for example.

              Based on our best knowledge of the people who live there, Israel is likely the best leaders of that plot of land.

              Not Bibi though. Hopefully Israel can get a better minister. But they are the closest to democracy that we are gonna get there.

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                  10 months ago

                  And the Saudis are a monarchy. So methinks you don’t like that either.

                  And presumably you don’t like Fascism either. So whatever, if you don’t got a realistic proposal then I guess you can go yell at clouds or something?


                  No wait, Anarchist? So you think me acting in my best interests is best? So you think I should take up a job at a weapons manufacturer, then encourage this war to keep happening and then profit from it? And your political slant prevents you from doing anything to stop me from doing that?

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                    10 months ago

                    So whatever, if you don’t got a realistic proposal then I guess you can go yell at clouds or something?

                    i’m trying to organize against oppression, but, yea, it does feel like yelling at clouds most days.

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        10 months ago

        Hamas wasn’t Bibi’s enemy when he was directly funding them with trucks full of cash through Qatar.