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Note that the USA is not a member of the International Criminal Court. And in 2002, the USA passed The American Service-Members’ Protection Act (known informally as the “Hague Invasion Act”), wherein the USA authorized itself to order military action (including invading the Netherlands where the Hague is located) to protect and free Americans and their allies (including Israel) from custody. It’s why George W Bush doesn’t fear ICC consequences for his war crimes.


Edit: I originally had the title as “South Africa has applied for the International Court of Justice (colloquially known as ‘The Hague’ to go after Israel” but SoyViking provided me with education in the comments on why this is not entirely accurate, as well as elucidated some important distinctions between the ICJ and ICC:

Sorry for being a nerd but the International Court of Justice, while also being situated in the Hague, is a different body than the International Criminal Court, which is colloquially called the Hague.

The ICJ dates back to the League of Nations and adjudicates international law disputes between sovereign states, meaning that only states can be parties in cases heard by the ICJ. Their ability to actually enforce their rulings are limited and it is completely possible for states, especially those of the International Community, to go “no that’s bollocks” and ignore their decisions.

The ICC is a much more recent invention. They adjudicate criminal cases against individuals. Their actual powers are more tangible than those of the ICJ. If the ICC issues an arrest warrant against someone there’s a decent chance that member states of the ICC will actually arrest that individual and extradite them to the Hague. Once there, people who are convicted actually goes to real jail. This is also the reason for the American “Hague Invasion Act” that is an explicit threat that if an American war criminal is extradited to the ICC, the evil empire will invade the Netherlands to break him out of jail.

  • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Sorry for being a nerd but the International Court of Justice, while also being situated in the Hague, is a different body than the International Criminal Court, which is colloquially called the Hague.

    The ICJ dates back to the League of Nations and adjudicates international law disputes between sovereign states, meaning that only states can be parties in cases heard by the ICJ. Their ability to actually enforce their rulings are limited and it is completely possible for states, especially those of the International Community, to go “no that’s bollocks” and ignore their decisions.

    The ICC is a much more recent invention. They adjudicate criminal cases against individuals. Their actual powers are more tangible than those of the ICJ. If the ICC issues an arrest warrant against someone there’s a decent chance that member states of the ICC will actually arrest that individual and extradite them to the Hague. Once there, people who are convicted actually goes to real jail. This is also the reason for the American “Hague Invasion Act” that is an explicit threat that if an American war criminal is extradited to the ICC, the evil empire will invade the Netherlands to break him out of jail.

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      Ah, thank you for the education! Is the ICJ connected to the ICC? I’m looking to edit the post to be more accurate. I’m thinking:

      Title: South Africa has applied for the International Court of Justice to go after Israel

      Description: Same as before with the addendum: thank you to SoyViking for education in the comments (then paste your comment)

      Edit: ok I updated it, let me know if this makes you uncomfortable or anything and I’ll happily change it <3 and once again, thank you for the education

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      The ICJ dates back to the League of Nations

      Uh um err sir sir sir ACKSHUALLY the ICJ has only been around since 1945, it was the PCIJ which dated back to the League of Nations, although of course Article 38.1 of the Statute of the ICJ recognizes judicial decisions from the PCIJ as a source of international law, inter alia.

      nerd

      What next, are you going to tell me shooting down a commercial airliner violates jus cogens??