Business As Usual

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A “hypocrisy” type meme with two images:

Top: photo of a military squad, all geared up, standing ready next to an armored vehicle. Caption: “Germany against scientists sitting in protest for climate”

Bottom: photo of a bunch of military personnel playing while wearing clown makeup. Caption: “Germany against farmers wanting to lynch government members because diesel subsidy needs to be cut”

  • Rooki@lemmy.worldM
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    6 months ago

    I mean supporting our local farmers benefits both, the environment and the people around them with jobs.

    With the “progressives” arent they called “klimakleber” if so i have no regards on them too, blocking roads for cars or even emergency services i have no tollerance on that, they are literally killing people with their behaviour.

    We all know that there is a climate change, but with that behaviour no one will ever do anything, because like said just the name is saying everything.

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      6 months ago

      No one has been doing anything before the klimakleber, so if all they lead to is no one doing anything, that’d still be fine.

      But in reality it does help. More extreme forms of protest shift the point of reference and as such help other forms get taken seriously. Even if I have mixed feelings about it, ultimately it’s probably a good thing.

      Also to my knowledge the Klimakleber have always left space for a Rettungsgasse…

      • Rooki@lemmy.worldM
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        6 months ago

        Huh, not in my region then. Could be Klimakleber extreme. Probably all glued themselves and could stand up for because of it.

        I think we have both different understandings, the Klimakleber is for me a laughing stock.

        They should rather do something productive for the environmnet, and not buy extra warning jackets, glue that is probably bad for the environment and forcing cars to idle and get people angry about the klimakleber.

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      6 months ago

      Regarding the klimakleber, obviously they should let emergency services pass. However, what else do you think they should do, if not peacefully be inconvenient? Everything else is already illegal here, or has no reach.

      The situation is dire, our ecosystem is collapsing and everyone under 60 right now is very likely to feel the dramatic consequences of that. We need to make drastic and uncomfortable changes in our way of life and economic system to prevent the worst, and people do not want to hear this, they just want to go on. If there is one thing Germans fear it’s change.

      • Rooki@lemmy.worldM
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        6 months ago

        The thing is you are going not to convince anyone by inconvinience. Thats sadly the hard truth. Be a good modle and dont buy stuff you dont need, eating local sourced food, dont drive unecessary and hope that today not a klimakleber blocks your way, so that you have to idle unnecessary. Push repairability, reusability and long lasting products. Dont buy a new iphone every year.

        Dont buy the coffee out of the the furthest possible country.

        And so that you know, the internet runs on electricity! So every click you do here produces emissions.

        • brrt@sh.itjust.works
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          6 months ago

          So you’re saying the farmers protests, which inconvenienced many people and raised emissions by wasting fuel driving around tractors with no real purpose, are wrong too? Got it!

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            6 months ago

            At least they are doing it right. And let emergency vehicles through. + they dont fly to the place where they want to protest.

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              6 months ago

              It must be quite tiring trying to justify to yourself the same means if only they meet your ends.

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                6 months ago

                I am not justifying myself, its just a fact that we need farmers jk for food. And its just confirming for me with klimakleber you cannot talk.

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                  6 months ago

                  Oh sorry. Forgot we totally don’t need a stable climate for food.

                  Btw, read your comment again and try to find the part where you are justifying. You’ll get there, I believe in you.

                  Edit: not a Klimakleber btw, just can’t stand the hypocrisy.

        • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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          6 months ago

          The fact you are here arguing proves it works. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if they didn’t glue themselves to something.

          We would be arguing something less important.

          • Rooki@lemmy.worldM
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            6 months ago

            Wow we prove it with mentioning . Do we prove aliens if we mentioning them too? Klimakleber went up in the funny charts because of that everyone knows and is annoyed by them.

    • nte
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      6 months ago

      Both are blocking the roads. One protest is regarding our all future without personal gain, the other one is about profit margins. Both are blocking the roads, all the same

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        6 months ago

        One is protesting because they feel like it, the other wants to say if you do that we leave our jobs and you will not have local farmers anymore.