I am curious what can be done about the Lemmy.World era of botting corpo comments to protect their investments?

Anything remotely federated w/ LW has a massive hard-on for corporations (anti-piracy boot-lickers only added us back when we had the largest community in the fediverse), racism (you ain’t american, you aint right), a desire to troll/argue in bad faith, and a general “fuck you, I have 500 accounts to down-vote with.”

I myself have over 60 accounts on Lemmy.World; and because of that, I am 100% certain somebody has a type of SMM portal to scan for keywords and upvote/downvote accordingly.

Don’t believe me?

Go post about Apple, Facebook, Tesla, or any other 1% owned entity, and watch which accounts upvote/downvote in less time than required to read the post.

  • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    10 months ago

    We’re all in this together and should try to find ways to collaborate our defenses instead of attacking other admins

    The only way this works (if I am to take their moderation at face value) would be for us to make more bot accounts than them.

    With that said, it’s already a terrible system that benefits the 1% (who is very capable of paying devs/server farms/bot nets/etc to boost their investments).

    Allowing the bots is allowing the 1% to choose the exact narrative that we see on Lemmy.

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      10 months ago

      I’m pretty sure lw admins don’t want sock puppets and bot accounts either. They have access to ip info and other details and other users are also vigilant against it. But against dedicated actors there’s no perfect protection, no matter the countermeasures. If there’s instances which are enabling this behaviour more overtly, they tend to get defederated

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      10 months ago

      A bot for a bot makes the Lemmyverse a bot-infested shithole.

      Do the points matter that much to you?

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        10 months ago

        If you have a post they don’t want seen, the downvotes inherently work to remove it from all the instances that use downvotes.

        You don’t have to want up votes to see why a lemmy bot net is a bad thing.

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      10 months ago

      I think a better solution would be to simply ban malicious bot accounts and vote manipulators from the instance, and encourage other instances to do the same. Maybe we could set up something on Fediseer which indexes accounts flagged as bots or abusers to make this easier. If these accounts were banned from many major instances their vote manipulation would only affect Lemmy.world and ones that didn’t ban the accounts. Would be better to ban them and purge their votes from the DB than it would to counter them with sock-puppets.