Discussion questions:

What video games have you played recently?

What are your favorite video game genres?

Question of the week:

What game have you completed recently and what are your thoughts on it?

  • redtea@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    I’ve probably played Skyrim for 150+ hours over the years. Still never completed the main game lol.

    • SleepyCat@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      I’m pretty sure I spent more time modding Skyrim than actually playing it. That stuff is seriously addictive.

      • redtea@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’ve never modded it. I just like running around. More or less.

        I’ve completed all the other quest lines, I think.

        One of the great things about Skyrim (and Fallout 4) is the audio and text can be changed to Spanish. It’s great for picking up vocab. Some of that vocab is a bit random, granted. But the repetition of basic items and the ability to make NPC’s say the same lines over and over again. I’ll never forget ‘lata’ (tin/can)!

          • redtea@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Yes, I’ve been learning it for a while now. One of the things that makes it easier is switching to a Spanish game or TV series when life is busy. It’s a bit less intense than reading and going through the grammar, but it keeps me in the language.

            • SleepyCat@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Does it work well for you? What do you do when coming across a word you don’t know? I’ve been thinking of doing something like this too but figured I need to get a better vocabulary first.

              • redtea@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                Very well, yes. Otherwise, I get burnt out. I can’t maintain ‘studying’ Spanish every day on top of being an adult and looking after myself. But I can always dedicate half an hour (or more) to escapism. It’s not so much the time, but the energy required for in-depth ‘studying’. So games and TV can really help with that.

                If I come across an unknown word on TV, I ignore it. In a game, it depends. In a cut-scene? I ignore it. During gameplay, I usually try to work out its meaning. Sometimes, if I know enough to keep playing, I don’t even worry about meaning, I just keep playing. If I come across the word three or more times and cannot figure it out, I look it up. If the word is frustrating me, I look it up. Occasionally, I write down these words, with a translation, aiming to keep a list – but it never lasts long and I usually forget about my lists quite quickly.

                In a game like Skyrim or Fallout 4, you know exactly what e.g. the nouns are because you can see them. So if you look at a carrot and the label on-screen says zanahoria, it’s obvious it’s a carrot. Words like ‘habilidades’ (abilities) and ‘otorga’ (grants/gives) are transparent. I know what they mean; but it’s strange – I wouldn’t necessarily be able to say what the equivalent English word is. I don’t worry about it.

                To build vocabulary, I do ‘listening-reading’ (see my post in !learnspanish@lemmygrad.ml), I read on Kindle with the Spanish dictionary set up and click unknown words for an instant translation (I don’t do this with every unknown word), and I read parallel texts. I also use google translate to look up unknown words if I hear or read them ‘in the wild’. To speed up this process, start with texts that you have read before or texts on topics with which you are familiar. You will be able to guess the meaning of words more easily, which means you won’t need to look up so many words.

                Note that I rarely do this, but a fast way to build vocabulary is through word lists:

                1. Three columns. Write seven-to-ten random words in the target language column 1. Translate them to a known language in column 2. Then translate back to the target language in column 3. Then write the words in the target language in column 1 of a new table.
                2. The next day, look at each word and see if you can remember it. If so, write it in column 2 in a colour (e.g. blue). If you have to look it up, write it in column 2 in a different colour (e.g. green). Translate column 2 in column 3. Start a new column 1 in a new table, adding the ‘green’ words. Add new words up to seven-to-ten, in total. If you had to look up e.g. three words, you can add four-to-seven new words.
                3. The next day, go again. Repeat.
                4. Each week, do one long list of all the words that you remembered (written in blue). You can review the trickier words in this list once a month.

                Paul Nation wrote a good guide on learning languages: https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/lals/resources/paul-nations-resources/paul-nations-publications/publications/documents/foreign-language_1125.pdf . The same thing in Spanish: https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/lals/resources/paul-nations-resources/paul-nations-publications/publications/documents/spanish-version-what-you-need-to-know-to-learn-a-foreign-language.pdf . You can use this as a parallel text if you open the English and Spanish PDFs side-by-side. He has some other work, here, including the same guide in different languages: https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/lals/resources/paul-nations-resources/paul-nations-publications/publications .