For context, Winston said this in 1973 for the CPUSA. He’s defending the party from when they dropped Black self-determination from the party platform in the 50s. Haywood put out this pamphlet in response right before Black nationhood was officially dropped from the party, detailing how and from where this revisionism is coming from (also in defense of Stalin). This memo got him purged from the party. Around the same time as the Winston essay, he puts out another piece about the collapse of the CPUSA from the 50s-60s.
Red Menace did an episode on the first Haywood piece, I think their criticism of the CPUSA even today is great.
The CPUSA dropped Black Self-determination from the platform to tail the Liberal assimilation movement and the conditions for Black people have never recovered. They did this in the same year that Emmett Till was lynched and his killers went unpunished. They absolutely failed to be the Vanguard.
I think everyone here should read the Haywood piece because it shows statements made by party members that just piss me off. Like this one:
The party capitulated to the Red Scare and settler nationalism using de-Stalinization by the CPSU as a cause to purge Black nationalists from the party.
Think about the implications of this event, a decade before the largest outburst of disobedience in the country’s history and supposed “Vanguard” drops militant Black anti-colonialism from the platform. The civil rights act was passed under bourgeois leadership because the party capitulated to it, and then blames Black nationalism on white radicals as the brains behind it, pathetic. MLK Jr. and Malcolm X killed in the vacuum the party left behind. Black poverty skyrocketed as predicted by Haywood. Ghettoization increased as predicted by Haywood. Now we are in a situation where NATIONALLY 1/3 Black men see prison (1 of my brothers is in prison on his 3rd strike, there are 3 of us brothers). The majority of homeless people are Black as predicted by Haywood. The BPP had to rebuild a vanguard from scratch in the ashes of the failed CP and Civil Rights movement with even more contradictions than what the CP had faced. In the face of the CP embracing Americanism, AIM and the BPP had to rebuild any semblance of anti-colonialism in North America from scratch.
The implication is integrationist. Winston was one of those overly-optimistic brothers who not only thought that the settlers not only should, but could ‘take the lead in the struggle’ against racism and oppression; and as a result, we shouldn’t have a reason to want to split away from again, the colonizers.
Frankly I find it kinda disgusting for some know-nothing fanfiction-writing cracker to claim that the internal colony theory is ‘wrong’, ESPECIALLY in the face of an Amerika that prosecutes us differently, incarcerates us differently, and still straight-up lynches us in the streets every time a cop gets called. Like, who the fuck is he to decide that? Who the fuck is this sun-dodging scoundrel to try and lash us back into boxes he can understand? If I’m honest, after every other writing I’ve seen out of Rainer thus far, this reads as little more than the longplay to turn Black folk into patsoc coons.
That’s what I thought too. New Afrikans aren’t colonized people anymore?? I don’t remember giving crackers permission to decide for us what our positions and material conditions are, especially when it’s coming from a settler colonialist perspective.
The tweet says in summary that there is no black internal colony and thus instead of black nationalism people should fight for a multi-racial socialist America.
he hasn’t had decent takes in a few months, he’s gone full patsoc and not only that, but he’s one of the most nonsensical ones. But I have no idea what the significance of this quote is
This seems to be the gist of his point, that new Afrikans are not an internal colony in the U$. I’m not really interested in reading his article about it, as I’m kind of done with him.
Libertarians are why I never leave the house unstrapped. Let’s see Rainer defend these fuckers next, he can make a twelve-week program of it.
You’ll never guess what he tweets the day after
For context, Winston said this in 1973 for the CPUSA. He’s defending the party from when they dropped Black self-determination from the party platform in the 50s. Haywood put out this pamphlet in response right before Black nationhood was officially dropped from the party, detailing how and from where this revisionism is coming from (also in defense of Stalin). This memo got him purged from the party. Around the same time as the Winston essay, he puts out another piece about the collapse of the CPUSA from the 50s-60s.
Red Menace did an episode on the first Haywood piece, I think their criticism of the CPUSA even today is great.
The CPUSA dropped Black Self-determination from the platform to tail the Liberal assimilation movement and the conditions for Black people have never recovered. They did this in the same year that Emmett Till was lynched and his killers went unpunished. They absolutely failed to be the Vanguard.
I think everyone here should read the Haywood piece because it shows statements made by party members that just piss me off. Like this one:
The party capitulated to the Red Scare and settler nationalism using de-Stalinization by the CPSU as a cause to purge Black nationalists from the party.
Think about the implications of this event, a decade before the largest outburst of disobedience in the country’s history and supposed “Vanguard” drops militant Black anti-colonialism from the platform. The civil rights act was passed under bourgeois leadership because the party capitulated to it, and then blames Black nationalism on white radicals as the brains behind it, pathetic. MLK Jr. and Malcolm X killed in the vacuum the party left behind. Black poverty skyrocketed as predicted by Haywood. Ghettoization increased as predicted by Haywood. Now we are in a situation where NATIONALLY 1/3 Black men see prison (1 of my brothers is in prison on his 3rd strike, there are 3 of us brothers). The majority of homeless people are Black as predicted by Haywood. The BPP had to rebuild a vanguard from scratch in the ashes of the failed CP and Civil Rights movement with even more contradictions than what the CP had faced. In the face of the CP embracing Americanism, AIM and the BPP had to rebuild any semblance of anti-colonialism in North America from scratch.
Are you fucking kidding me
Bro wtf 💀💀💀💀
I’m not american enough to get it?
The implication is integrationist. Winston was one of those overly-optimistic brothers who not only thought that the settlers not only should, but could ‘take the lead in the struggle’ against racism and oppression; and as a result, we shouldn’t have a reason to want to split away from again, the colonizers.
Frankly I find it kinda disgusting for some know-nothing fanfiction-writing cracker to claim that the internal colony theory is ‘wrong’, ESPECIALLY in the face of an Amerika that prosecutes us differently, incarcerates us differently, and still straight-up lynches us in the streets every time a cop gets called. Like, who the fuck is he to decide that? Who the fuck is this sun-dodging scoundrel to try and lash us back into boxes he can understand? If I’m honest, after every other writing I’ve seen out of Rainer thus far, this reads as little more than the longplay to turn Black folk into patsoc coons.
Thanks for the explanation!
That’s what I thought too. New Afrikans aren’t colonized people anymore?? I don’t remember giving crackers permission to decide for us what our positions and material conditions are, especially when it’s coming from a settler colonialist perspective.
The tweet says in summary that there is no black internal colony and thus instead of black nationalism people should fight for a multi-racial socialist America.
Thanks!
Me neither. That guy usually has some decent takes so I wonder what’s being implied here.
he hasn’t had decent takes in a few months, he’s gone full patsoc and not only that, but he’s one of the most nonsensical ones. But I have no idea what the significance of this quote is
This seems to be the gist of his point, that new Afrikans are not an internal colony in the U$. I’m not really interested in reading his article about it, as I’m kind of done with him.
Who is Henry Winston and why does he have the authority to deny importing millions of slaves to work under settler overseers is colonialism?
My thought’s exactly! I’ve never heard of him, but I don’t really want to read what Rainer wrote either.
I edited my comment at the trunk of this thread with context.
No way? I haven’t read his stuff in a long while. I thought that patsoc shit was dying down.