People generally do it because they’re in a political party, plus you get paid for it though I think it takes many months for it to come in (never really worried enough about it to keep an eye out for that money coming into my bank account) and it doesn’t add up to much per hour for what’s a really long day (from about 6 AM to around 10 - 12PM depending on how long it takes to count the votes of one’s polling station).

It’s an interesting experience if a bit tiring.

It’s the most boring thing of the technical side of the job especially at the more senior levels because it’s so mindnumbingly simple, uses a significant proportion of development time and is usually what ends up having to be redone if there are small changes in things like input or output interfaces (i.e. adding, removing or changing data fields) which is why it’s probably one of the main elements in making maintaining and updating code already in Production a far less pleasant side of job than the actual creation of the application/system is.

Yeah, ok, I agree with that.

On first sight (because clearly the word “Palestine” has triggered him and he’s only assaulting people who are chuggers for the UN aid agency) seems to be a violent Zionist nutter (and the violence too is consistent with being an ethno-Fascist), but what we see in that video is not sufficient for people to be certain of it, only at most to think it’s likely.

Context in this situation would only matter in the size of the sentence in a Court of Law.

His action were straighforward Assault, a Crime.

As I said, it’s the transition from words to violence that make it Assault.

Further, you can see him using violence against a guy who is just standing there and not using violence against him (the head butt) as well as against a guy who is actually trying to escape him who he tries to trip and pursues into the store, all of which are most definitelly Attack not Defense.

And all this is assuming you can’t just read the body language of the guy and the other people around him - you can easilly see the others are cowering and he’s attacking not defending himself.

Last but not least the thing that triggered him was clearly the word “Palestine” as shown by him threathening other people with death if they say that word.

You’re doing Narnia-levels of fantasising to excuse a guy who is acting in a pretty straightforward violent bully style and who is triggered into violence by the word “Palestine”, which is not normal unless that person’s a Neue-Nazi.

That doesn’t apply to the people at the shop.

It’s in the best interest of the shop to stop this kind of thing ASAP so they’re far more likely to call the cops if there’s an altercation at their door that’s even going into the shop.

Further, it also depends on the kind of country.

I lived in the UK: it’s far more violent as societies go and far more prone to “I don’t want to get involved” behaviours than other countries in Europe. I’ve seen the way people respond to the same situation in for example England and The Netherlands and it’s very different.

Don’t assume that what you see in Manchester is representative of what you would see in Paris, and definitelly not of what you would seen in Northern Europe.

It’s not a question of “instigation”, it’s a question of transitioning from offensive words to violence, plus the actual issuing of death threats.

Unless you think the UNICEF people (all of whom are smaller in stature) started the violence, this guy is the one who started the violence which in a normal society is the kind of things that criminals do. Him chosing death threats (literally “I’ll kill you!”) rather than non-deadly threats is also highly abnormal (well, maybe not in his society) in that is far more extreme than even a common violent drunk would do (at least here in Europe).

In your group effort to excuse the actions of this guys, you just come out as desperatelly trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole.

It’s not just based on the police response but how other people around him are behaving, for example on their phones and calling the police.

You can see people passing by and ignoring that shit as if it was normal.

A guy shouting “I’ll kill you” whilst pursuing somebody into a store would trigger the people at the store calling the police in most of Europe.

Well, the video starts already well into the altercation and that’s a high-end main shopping street with all the most expensive shops and the kind of place where there is usually police around, but yeah it’s a a bit of of 50\50 thing whether even in a place like London or Paris a copper would pop-up in time for the video.

Also it depends on how likely people are to call the police in such a situation (if the guy did this in, for example Scandinavia, the police would likey end up involved).

What kind of fucked up country is this were the police didn’t immediatly came to this altercation and detained the guy.

I mean, he’s not only being violent, he’s even making death threats.

If that poster was being honest about it (a huge “if”) the most logical explanation for somebody empathising with the perpetrator of an assault but not with the victims is that they’re extremelly biased in a tribalist way and hence fully empathise with those of their tribe butnot at all with those a member of their tribe would be angry and violent against.

Or to put things in simpler terms: Nazis can really understand and share the anger that makes other Nazis be violent, never the point of view of the victims of the Nazis.

When seeing a situation like this a normal person tends to empathise with victims quite independently of who they are and not try and imagine reasons to excuse the violence of the bully.

Yeah, it’s exactly the same in the very opposite end of Europe (and about as poor) - Portugal - which I know becaused I maned the polling places a couple of times and read the rule book.

Little kid: “Why is there a bright ball of light in the sky?”

Me (thinking): “Oh, shit…”

Yeah, because of this situation the dark unreformed underbelly which is the thinking about people as “ethnics” that was one of the core foundations of Nazism, has been brought to light - very much alive and well - in the power structures of Germany and its power elites.

Yeah, the word “buy” in this is just one element of a broader pattern, and whilst per-se it isn’t sufficient to distinguish between acquiring a thing or getting access to a thing, in these cases of mounts, armor and so on being sold in games, the entire framing wording and even store structure around it tends to lead people towards concluding that the meaning of it is for “acquiring a thing” not for “getting access to a thing”, especially because in the absence of domain specific clarification (an absence I believe is entirely purposeful) people who aren’t intellectual property lawyers and fully informed of the subject matter will tend to for virtual goods use the same logic to deduce the full meaning as they would for equivalent goods in other domains, specifically physical goods.

This is why also in the physical world legislation forces some kinds of business transactions with consumers to explicitly use the words “rental” or “lease” in order to make clear the nature of the transaction but might not have any such requirements for business to business transactions because businesses are assumed to have the capability to assess the full contract.

Non-Jews defining what being a Jew is, denying what actual Jews said about it, is exactly the kind of thing Nazis do (both the literal, historical Nazi Party members and supporters and present day ethno-Fascists)

The real anti-semites are the ones who accuse of anti-semitiesm people who are against Genocide, since that is logically equivalent to saying that commiting Genocide is a Jewish trait.

I only know about the Goedendag because it’s one of the weapons in the Battle Brothers game, and since I can speak Dutch I always thought it was funny that the weapon’s name is pretty much “good day” in modern Dutch.

So this is pretty interesting for me and cheers for this piece of History!

American politics nowadays is essential two humongous circle jerks, though here in Lemmy were only get to see one of them in all its glory.

Portugal has exactly the same system (I’ve lived in both countries) which has actually even more features (such as letting you pay yours bills at any ATM) than the Dutch one.

I think that at least in Europe the countries were ATMs rely on VISA or Mastercard for inter-bank withdrawals like in the UK and US are the exception rather than the rule.

I live in a 10 million people European country which is the leading cork producer in the World

Also the first European country to explicitly decriminalise drug consumption.

Those two things are unrelated.