He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours’ long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It’s really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist ‘nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies’ tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

kitty-birthday-sad

    • macabrett[they/them]@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      23 days ago

      If you go down the bottom path, does anyone ever go back up and untie all those people or are they stuck there forever as bait for the electoral system that reflects a runaway trolley?

    • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      23 days ago
      • Kamala Harris has made it clear she will do nothing to protect LGBTQ people, stating “The law is the law”.
      • Roe v. Wade was overturned while she was VP and it’s not like they didn’t get a fair warning beforehand. The dems didn’t do anything about Roe v. Wade because it’s a way to get rubes like you to clap for them like trained seals.
      • I think it’d be good if we stopped the pointless meatgrinder in Ukraine - Something ukrainians agree with, since they have to be forcibly conscripted. If you believe the war is so important, then go volunteer.
      • Tim Walz sicced the national guard on BLM protesters. Kamala Harris arrested black parents for having truant children and laughed about it. They are running on being tough on crime. As VP Harris has been in an administration that deported more than Trump. They have increased funding to cops. This is your idea of a person who won’t straight up murder BLM?
      • See my other comment for an in-depth explanation of why you’re a fucking ghoul who I hope will hang for your collaborationist crimes some day. In brief: It is a genocide, the end point is extermination and they are being put in camps right now. It does not get worse.

      Of course you did already know all this, at the very least on a subconscious level. You just don’t care or, more likely, you actively support a lot of it. But just say that instead, I’m tired of having you people pretending. At least the republicans are honest about being hateful bigots.

    • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      22 days ago

      Here we go again. The fact that you’re all just saying the exact same idiotic stupidities is honestly baffling. In a sense it’s nice since I don’t have to type out something unique for each and every one of you, but how can you live like that? Totally unexamined? Just… An empty vessel for whatever is on the front page of reddit to be broadcast into your skull this day.

      And here’s an extra special treat, just for you because I imagine you’re gonna say something about not voting being a vote for Trump