• blazera@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Right, that includes Trump. Its been a democrat funding and supporting this genocide the entire time. You hypocrites cant use these deaths to fuckin support democrats.

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        because Donald “I will let Netyanahu finish the job” Trump is somehow better for this. Get your head out of your ass lol

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          He’s been finishing the job just fine under Biden. I’ve gotten to the point where I can’t honestly see what the difference is(in this particular issue). There was a time where wholesale annihilation and annexation was unacceptable but since that’s cool can you point me to where exactly you think the Dems red line exists? Because it certainly seems to be beyond the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

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            The difference is that Biden has not once come out to say “i will help neyyanahu flatten Gaza” and from what I’ve read has been criticising him (to the best of his old man abilities).

            It sucks that U.S. kept sending weapons to Israel for one reason or another, but the key difference here is that with a democratic president you had a higher chance of getting thru.

            Good luck getting Trump to listen to anything at all. And I guess good job for letting Trump take the president seat, not only will he help flatten Gaza (which Biden seemingly was doing anyway), but will also flatten women’s rights in the U.S., will flatten healthcare and education, will flatten any climate change progress, and will let Russia flatten Ukraine. An astounding failure for the entire world, just because your only issue was “b-but think of Gaza!”

            I hope you’re happy with your moral high ground because you decided to not vote for Genocide Kamala and instead let Destroy Everyone Trump win.

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          Take a minute to read that headline again. You got Trump for this now, because you insisted to everyone to accept that headline, those deaths, that ‘better than this’ just isnt an option. You wouldnt permit people that care about life, that oppose genocide somewhere else to go. So they went nowhere, because genocide is not an option.

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            1 hour ago

            And yet accelerated genocide is the option that was chosen.

            Look, I get the argument you’re making. The problem is that it hinges entirely on accepting a premise that isn’t based in reality. Progress, specifically as it relates to harm reduction, doesn’t happen instantaneously. It never has. You take the wins you can get and then push for the next step. You can be mad about that, and I would argue that we all should be, but it’s not going to change the way things work. In this case you’ve let idealism get in the way of actual tangible improvement. Even if you disagree with that characterization you can’t dispute the fact that you’ve at least helped shut the door on the potential for improvement. If you can find a way to rationalize that in your head to make you feel like the good guy then I understand why you would want to take that path, but do you honestly believe the people of Gaza take solace in the fact that you had good intentions? I’d wager they don’t give a shit how you frame this in your mind. They’re just thinking about what a Trump presidency means for the future of this conflict and that isn’t good by any stretch of the imagination.

          • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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            1 hour ago

            Yes it is. It’s the one you got. Congrats on maintaining your ideological purity. It’s going to be quite a show.