What is the point of the fediverse having built-in censorship to ban ideas, views, and opinions? There could be a direct connection between why Mastodon does not attract new users and the totalitarian censorship of the fediverse pushing a monolith barbarian culture.

Looking through posts on the different fediverse services, it seems anything built on ActivityPub will only turn stale in 5 years because it is designed for people who can’t function in society where random individuals can freely reject their statements, so they need the internet to hide away from life.

  • Rav Sha'ulOP
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    5 hours ago

    The entire fediverse is built on censorship of thought and opinion because no server is allowed to join the fediverse that allows posts criticizing transgenderism.

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      There isn’t really a single “fediverse” that decides what’s “allowed”. What your fediverse is depends on where your account is and who they’re federated with. You’re perfectly free to say whatever you want on your own instance and talk to the other people on instances willing to federate with you. The thing is, being mean to people who have done nothing to harm you tends to make you pretty unpopular and make people not want to interact with you, that’s why instances that encourage that tend to not be federated with very many popular instances.

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        Do people have a right to disagree with you? When you comment on any subject or topic, whatever it might be, do others have right to not support what you believe in? No marriage or serious relationship can last with restrictions on personal thought. Successful marriages must have room for disagreements.

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          If we’re talking on the phone and you start talking about stuff that I’m not interested in hearing, I’m allowed to hang up.

          You can disagree all you want, that doesn’t mean I’m required to listen to you.

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          Yeah, over stuff like what to have for dinner. Not whether some people don’t deserve human rights.

          And let me make this perfectly clear: all people deserve human rights.

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          What? People are allowed to avoid people they have serious disagreements with? You have every right to have whatever unkind opinions you want to have, but that doesn’t mean anyone is required to listen to you or like you. You’re never going to be liked by everyone in the world, but if you can hardly find anyone willing to be around you, it’s probably time to do some self refelction

    • drkt@scribe.disroot.org
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      There is a whole network of conservative fediverse instances and you’re free to go to them. They also allow CSAM and outward racism, which is why this side of the fediverse doesn’t federate with them. Hope that helps :)

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      Again, not wanting to hear bullshit != censoring. You can just go ahead and make your own instance that flames transgender people just for existing, if that’s your thing, but people might find you annoying and rude and might not want to hang out with you.

      Would you consider me blocking you to be censorship, for example? And if not, why would it be different if an entire group blocks you?

      • Rav Sha'ulOP
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        You blocking me does not qualify as censorship due to individual liberties. I can agree that if someone is frequently complaining about trans people, even some people who agree will grow tired of the negativity. There is a problem trying to public promote a service as an established service and attract new users, and then to say “No, we don’t allow your kind in here, you are only allowed to agree with every word we say”, that starts to look like a bait and switch scam and pushing dictatorial censorship.

        Do an internet search for “mastodon censorship” and read through 10 different search results.

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          Mastodon and Lemmy themselves don’t offer services. The people who install the app on their servers do. They set up their instance, with their rules and setup. Anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome.

          But let’s say that users have a problem with how instance A is handling it’s modding. If they’re on another instance B, they could ask their admin to block instance A. If you’re on instance A, you can change instances, or better yet, make your own.

          What we tell people that want to join is that there is no centralised server. Unlike reddit, if you get banned there, you have no link aggregator to go to. But if you get banned on Lemmy, you can, and I will repeat myself, change instances or make your own.