This might be a surprise to learn, but some people actually go on dates in public places. Even areas you would think are safe like restaurants, movie theaters, bars and parks. There you can see all kinds of debauchery like hugging, saying I love you, some freaks even hold hands in front of other people.
When a man holds another mans hand, or a woman a woman etc. Doesnt take a genius to infer. Its not “invisible being forced to visible”. So instead of pushing the narrative of “just consistently police yourself so that no one knows anything about you” why not push the “mind your own business and dont intrude into peoples lives” one instead? I.e. you can marry, get healthcare, and opportunities for employment regardless?
Also its not “preference” unless you agree that heterosexual people just “prefer” the opposite sex, but can always change if their “tastes shift”
Me and my spouse go out on a date, we walk into the store holding hands, play footsy while ordering, share a dessert, and have a good kiss or two before walking out.
How do you propose that no one knows what my sexual preference is in that situation?
That’s a situation where you are (intimate) with your partner.
I was talking about situations where you are alone on the street… there is no reason why another person should be able to guess what your sexual preferences are.
That’s not even what I said… I said that if you are alone (i.e. not with your partner, doing obvious partner activities) how would anyone even know that you are gay?
They are doing an activity that a straight person would do (i.e. hang out with a partner) and judged differently.
In an ideal world, you would be right. Heck, you can hold hands, hug, kiss anyone and not be gay! But doing those activities for people that look gay attracts negative attention. People with non-conforming appearances get judged differently. Girl with short hair? Guy with long hair? Guy wearing a dress? These are completely normal things for certain presenting genders that I have seen called slurs.
Girl with short hair? Guy with long hair? Guy wearing a dress?
So you are not actually being harassed for your sexual preferences, but for dressing unconventionally…
I’m ready to bet that two average / boring looking guys making out in public will get less harassment, than any guy with colorful hair walking in high heels or something.
If you are an effeminate gay like my husband. People can tell right away no matter what he is doing and people will give him the stink eye or throw a slur his way.
Why is sexual preference even something that is visible? It should only be obviously visible when you are intimate with your partner…
This might be a surprise to learn, but some people actually go on dates in public places. Even areas you would think are safe like restaurants, movie theaters, bars and parks. There you can see all kinds of debauchery like hugging, saying I love you, some freaks even hold hands in front of other people.
When a man holds another mans hand, or a woman a woman etc. Doesnt take a genius to infer. Its not “invisible being forced to visible”. So instead of pushing the narrative of “just consistently police yourself so that no one knows anything about you” why not push the “mind your own business and dont intrude into peoples lives” one instead? I.e. you can marry, get healthcare, and opportunities for employment regardless?
Also its not “preference” unless you agree that heterosexual people just “prefer” the opposite sex, but can always change if their “tastes shift”
Signalling is a fundamental part of social communication, always has been, always will be. You do it all the time, you’re likely just not aware of it.
why should anyone have to hide who they love and are attracted to? straight people certainly don’t
Me and my spouse go out on a date, we walk into the store holding hands, play footsy while ordering, share a dessert, and have a good kiss or two before walking out.
How do you propose that no one knows what my sexual preference is in that situation?
That’s a situation where you are (intimate) with your partner. I was talking about situations where you are alone on the street… there is no reason why another person should be able to guess what your sexual preferences are.
You heard it here folks, no kissing no holding hands on the street. No not even you straighties, keep it in your home!
Sexual preferences stupid
Straight folks take their kids out in public and shove it in everyone’s face that they had heterosexual intercourse to make them. Bunch of sickos!
That’s not even what I said… I said that if you are alone (i.e. not with your partner, doing obvious partner activities) how would anyone even know that you are gay?
They are doing an activity that a straight person would do (i.e. hang out with a partner) and judged differently.
In an ideal world, you would be right. Heck, you can hold hands, hug, kiss anyone and not be gay! But doing those activities for people that look gay attracts negative attention. People with non-conforming appearances get judged differently. Girl with short hair? Guy with long hair? Guy wearing a dress? These are completely normal things for certain presenting genders that I have seen called slurs.
Regardless, have fun moving the goal posts again.
So you are not actually being harassed for your sexual preferences, but for dressing unconventionally…
I’m ready to bet that two average / boring looking guys making out in public will get less harassment, than any guy with colorful hair walking in high heels or something.
Goal posts moved again.
Fuck off, bigot.
Just clarifying the strawman arguments that people are putting in my mouth…
Also how am I a bigot when I say that it’s totally fine for two men to kiss in public?
If you are an effeminate gay like my husband. People can tell right away no matter what he is doing and people will give him the stink eye or throw a slur his way.
its simple, if you dont want people to hate crime you just dont do gay things /s
Poe’s law meant I was debating if this was serious until the /s, lmao