• gandalf_der_12te
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    5 months ago

    I have a fundamental question.

    labor should unite instead of letting business idiots take most of the value they create.

    In case you actually manage to do that, and the factories run in fact so well that a million workers are enough to provide the whole US with all the food and consumer articles they need.

    Then what do the other 331 million USians do? They would not have a job and therefore no source of income. They would revolt and a civil war would erupt? How would you deal with that?

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      5 months ago

      Basic income seems like an obvious solution.

      Many people would pursue happy lives. Do some art. Do some gardening.

      You’d also want to have like public housing or something so you don’t have parasitic landlords and homelessness.

      • gandalf_der_12te
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        5 months ago

        Basic income seems like an obvious solution.

        ok i agree to this.

        But then i do wonder, why take the extra detour over “labor should unite instead of letting business idiots take most of the value they create” (which i read as seize the means of production)? Why not just introduce UBI immediately?

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          5 months ago

          Cuz you can’t introduce Ubi as long as there is a parasitic capitalist class controlling all the wealth.

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          5 months ago

          There’s still going to be production, and I don’t think we should continue with the capitalist class extracting value and making bad decisions

          If you introduce basic income without addressing that, you’ll still have all the enshittification