• unexposedhazard
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    2 months ago

    Yeah obama is really not a great example of international diplomacy.

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      2 months ago

      Remember when we were on track to normalize relations with Iran and Cuba?

      And I really gotta disagree with the first guy that Putin invading Crimea was in any way Obama’s responsibility

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        2 months ago

        normalize relations with Iran

        Back when Israel wasnt killing 100+ people a day in Gaza? Fucking easy job that was back then yeah. Dont get me wrong, Trump and Biden were probably worse than Obama, but that doesnt make Obama a good diplomat. If you always hold your politicians to the standard of the likes of Trump, then the world is fucking doomed.

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          Fucking easy job that was back then yeah.

          Were you a child during the Obama Administration? I ask because you clearly don’t remember. You can repeat over and over “Obama wasn’t a good diplomat,” but that doesn’t make it true.

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            2 months ago

            I remember the civilian death count that he left behind. You can simp for him all you want, but that doesnt make him any less of a war criminal.