It’s honestly such a wild claim. I’m no fan of MLs, but just throwing rape accusations out there without any description of circumstance, let alone evidence, is just absurd.
As for murderer, he did kill many people, both as a guerrilla and as political leader overseeing executions. The latter is him wielding the power of state violence, which of course should be condemned but is part of a system of violence.
As for the former, I won’t hold that against him. Rebellions and revolutions will never be without bloodshed
Personally I’m not sure about the rape claims, but regarding the murders let’s take this excerpt from Wikipedia:
He described his brutality using paradoxical phrases, such as defining the revolutionary’s motivation as “an immeasurable feeling of love,” while at the same time having to practice “becoming a cold-blooded killing machine, driven by pure hatred.”
Given he apparently said that, was described by others to enjoy killings and was proven to be directly responsible for shootings of countless of people (including, but not limited to the ones in '59) we should absolutely hold that against him. There’s no sense in shifting the blame to a state, given he together with Castro was the one building and directly in charge of it.
I hate doing this, but even the US has done very apprehensive shit to leftists not too long ago, and nobody is painting the people responsible like Che.
Even the fucking W Bush is now painting and acting like a little angel, after overseeing two countries destruction.
Yet the west keeps only pointing out faults of others.
ML is a place of sickos and bad faith people, but there are kernels of truth in the madness.
That’s funny given most of the image people have of Guevara is due to western commercialization (and at the same time romanticizing) of his likeness, not because he was such a good guy.
I hate the whole US bullshit as well, but simping for someone who’s by his own accord a hate-fuelled killer (as well) just because he opposed them won’t get you anywhere either.
Don’t say that so loud, you’re hurting the feelings of stalinists, marxists and edgy teenagers. :<
In the end piefed perhaps gets defederated from lemmy.ml! That would be, like, probably very bad!!1!1
It’s honestly such a wild claim. I’m no fan of MLs, but just throwing rape accusations out there without any description of circumstance, let alone evidence, is just absurd.
As for murderer, he did kill many people, both as a guerrilla and as political leader overseeing executions. The latter is him wielding the power of state violence, which of course should be condemned but is part of a system of violence.
As for the former, I won’t hold that against him. Rebellions and revolutions will never be without bloodshed
Personally I’m not sure about the rape claims, but regarding the murders let’s take this excerpt from Wikipedia:
Given he apparently said that, was described by others to enjoy killings and was proven to be directly responsible for shootings of countless of people (including, but not limited to the ones in '59) we should absolutely hold that against him. There’s no sense in shifting the blame to a state, given he together with Castro was the one building and directly in charge of it.
I hate doing this, but even the US has done very apprehensive shit to leftists not too long ago, and nobody is painting the people responsible like Che.
Even the fucking W Bush is now painting and acting like a little angel, after overseeing two countries destruction.
Yet the west keeps only pointing out faults of others.
ML is a place of sickos and bad faith people, but there are kernels of truth in the madness.
That’s funny given most of the image people have of Guevara is due to western commercialization (and at the same time romanticizing) of his likeness, not because he was such a good guy.
I hate the whole US bullshit as well, but simping for someone who’s by his own accord a hate-fuelled killer (as well) just because he opposed them won’t get you anywhere either.
No argument there.
But at least he was honest.
I hate how much people white-wash modern mass murderers despite them doing it for profit only, nothing else.