• kluczyczka (she/her)
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    3 days ago

    i never affirmed anything nor was i talking body positivity. this is just about calling people out for their body. that is shitty behaviour for sure. none of us knows the life of other people, nor do we know their medical conditions and socio-economic situations. stop blaming them for stuff you don’t know about. even if you were right about all of that for any given case and wished for them to be healthier: blame does not motivate people.

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      3 days ago

      We do know the life of these other people, some of the shittiest people of them all or they wouldn’t be willing to do this job.

      Sorry, they deserve every possible shame they can get.

      Edit. They drop the ice, I will drop the berg.

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          body shaming those you dislike still hits those you like.

          we don’t know other peoples lives

          That is what you said. People I like don’t work for ice, and these people clearly do.

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            3 days ago

            well, and you don’t like overweight people in general?

            by all means, hate ice fucks, but if you’d call them fags for whatever reason, i’d throw stuff at you. because using fag as an insult is an attack on me. that is the structure i was talking about. insults that are based on groups are shit if you “don’t really” mean to shit on the whole group.

            choose your insults wisely. :*

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              That is an interesting context, and I get what you mean.

              Funny though that my gay friends would call them FagBergs if that bothered the ice monsters. They would be all for it, largely because they don’t find it insulting to be called fags, lol.

              In any case you don’t choose if you are gay but you do choose to join ice. If it gets under their skin, I really don’t care what you call them.

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      3 days ago

      If you weight 500lbs, it’s becuase you eat more than you need. Biology is pure math. Calories in, calories out. There is no opinion or empathy in that calculation.

      Medication and living situations can definitely effect it though, and those who struggle with weight absolutely deserve support and kindness.

      But society needs both sides of the friction to genuinely encourage change. The condemnation side to prevent normalization, and the support side to welcome those who wish to change.

      I support and encourage those who need it. But I will continue to condemn and mock those who refuse.

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        Obesity wouldn’t be the problem it is if it were just a personal choice. Plenty of people hardly have time for a healthy diet and lots of the quick, cheap, and easy options are calorie dense and addictive. It is very easy to unknowingly eat way too many calories without realizing it.

        I won’t say I didn’t laugh at the joke. I did. But having been fat myself I can say that having people give me shit for my weight would never be helpful. Normalizing body shaming is more likely to create eating disorders and depression than it is to help fat people lose weight.

        You don’t need to shame fat people to shame Nazis.