I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the “well Russia was the aggressor” thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.
also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.
I think we may disagree on the origins of the Maidan Protests, the Crimea annexation, and at this point probably even the end of WW2 and Soviet Union.
Edit: aw shit, I just realized where I am.
youre on the history channel motherfucker
Did you protest arming Nazi militias like Azov that posted videos of themselves crucifying people and burning them alive or giving them electric shocks while making them dig a grave?
?!?!
That’s a lot of words for “no.”
Just say you supported the Maidan coup.
Most Westerners who watched the news did
At the time my impression was “brave Ukrainian students ousting their corrupt Russian minion of a president so they can join the EU and become a proper European country instead of a depressing Soviet hellhole”
That’s still the level most people are operating on
I think a lot of people naivly-as-opposed-to-maliciously believe what doublepepperoni said.
I think people on Hexbear often forget how different the world looks to the average person in the West
I mean, I exist in the West, I’m well aware of how bad the typical person’s politics regarding foreign countries are.
Love to know that we’re making a reputation for ourselves
Average Operation Unthinkable supporter
ain’t that some shit. please enlighten us all what you meant by this? Do you think the wrong side won the war? Are you saying you think the world would have been a better place if Nazi Germany hadn’t been defeated by the Soviet Union? We are all ears.
Based on their other opinions, I dont think they would (openly) go that far which is why I’m kind of baffled by the statement and want to know what the hell they DID mean. Like maybe they dont think the USSR won the war alone. Or they believe Double Genocide Theory? Idk.
ETA: Oh maybe its that they think Operation Unthinkable was a good idea like another poster suggested.
One of us lives on Earth, the other lives on Planet CIA.
???
The nazis were talked into defeat, it was the power of love obviously
What do you mean by this?
Coward.
Who took Berlin?
Who screwed it up and gave it all back?
Again ??? What the fuck does this even mean?
The western powers put ex nazis in control in West Germany but I dont think thats what you’re asking about.
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Naw, waste of time arguing with conspiracy nutters.
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Conspiracy nutter is when you think history has more moving parts than a Marvel script
Your side is the one giving ten minute standing ovations to veterans of the 14th SS volunteer division to own the ruskies and re-writing history
It’s not for your audience. Educate the lurkers.