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        You are right about semites, but that’s not the common definition nor usage of antisemitism though. Language is a funny beast.

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          Well language should work that way. If using a word logically exposes the hypocrisy of a genocidal regime, it should be used logically.

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            And we should all speak Esperanto because it’s far easier to learn and logical! Unfortunately my attempts to convince 8 billion people have so far proven fruitless. Maybe tomorrow I’ll succeed.

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              Calling killers of semites antisemites is not such a big change as speaking Esperanto, and it doesn’t require as much effort. In fact, in your case it took negative effort. You had to go out of your way to say my language is wrong. You shouldn’t do that, my language is better than the traditional language. You’re spending energy accomplishing nothing.

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        You see, we need a moderate, balanced take on the topic of genocide. It would be impolite and improper to take a firm stance on such things. Just think of how you might hurt the feelings of a genocide enthusiast! I don’t know how I would sleep at night.

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          Yawn. I guess everyone who doesn’t tow the party line and join the two minutes hate is censored here. My commentary was reasoned and appropriate to the comic.

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            God you’re so right, this is literally 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami. When will genocide supporters get their human rights?

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        ‘from the river to the sea’, which of course is antisemitism

        I think you mean anticolonialism.

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            What do you call it when you forcefully remove hundreds of thousands of natives without letting them return and then replace them with people from all over the world?

            And this is still happening in the west bank.

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        Only a racist would claim that a slogan which is at most anti-Israel is antisemitism because only a racist would would accept the “logic” chain of though required to equate Israel with Judaism: “all jews are the same hence they all support Israel hence Israel and Judaism are the same”.

        It’s even worse considering that some Jews are against the actions of Israel and even against Israel itself, so this person is saying that those Jews are antisemites (quite literally: against Jews), so a Non-Jew deeming some Jews as “Bad Jews”, a good old practice of, amongst others, the Nazis.

        One of the underlying messages of this cartoon is exactly that it’s the Zionist Karen that’s the real antisemite because claiming that somebody demonstrating against Genocide is against Jews, she’s implying that Genociding is a Jewish thing to do.

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        Thanks for the nuanced comment. Of course the signs don’t only say ‘stop killing of children in Gaza’, but often ‘from the river to the sea’, which of course is antisemitism.

        Of course antisemitism ? That is what the repeated front-page news of mainstream media tried to make me believe a while ago, and then lots of politicians started to believe that as well, even banning that sentence in some countries. Here’s some information on it :

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

        Many Palestinian activists have called it “a call for peace and equality” after decades of Israeli military rule over Palestinians while for Jews it is seen as a call for the “destruction” of Israel.

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        The full chant is “from the river to the sea [Palestine will be free]” which to me means that the state of Israel is unwelcome. Hell I’ve joined in on that chant, even though I’m not theoretically 100 against a permanent Israeli settlement, so long as it takes on a very very different form.

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          Even though the removal of the state of Isreal would mean the ethnic cleansing / genocide of millions of Jews?

          Israel isn’t going anywhere. Many Arabic countries have already successfully completed the total eradication of all Jews within their populations, so they need somewhere to call home.

          Oh by the way, the original Arabic translation of “To the river to the sea” ends with “Palestine will be Arab.” They just changed it in English.