Yeah I genuinely see no difference between tiktok and other social media. Everyone on reddit/lemmy loves to hate on tiktok I never really got why. If it’s because of data collection they’re doing nothing any different than Facebook, insta, etc. Now X, that’s another story lol.
I think Western people just have a bias where it’s fine if their own country does it, but when their boogeyman China is doing the same exact thing, it’s all of the sudden scary and bad.
I, personally, think TikTok is not great for people or society, but I have the same exact feelings about Facebook, Instagram, and all of the major Western run social media stuff. TikTok is by no means any worse than them. For that reason, Lemmy is the only social media account I have at this point, but I dont judge anyone for using any of them. The majority of the people criticizing TikTok are hypocritical, for sure.
Yeah. All of these social media platforms are pretty bad. TikTok has been caught abusing android bugs, basically behaving like a virus. I’m sure the others have done something similar.
I agree! I think algorithms made with a profit incentive are harmful. I also think tiktok has been super impactful in a positive way to bring people together in a more human way than traditional sm allows for.
I dunno. It’s full of articles, I’m reading news constantly, I’m discussing social topics with—now that I think I about it, surprisingly level headed people sharing interesting opinions….i learn a lot here. Sure, I also get shown really stupid shit. But I spend the majority of my time reading stuff. And looking up other stuff when I discuss things. So I’d disagree. Respectfully. My good friend.
Everyone isn’t addicted to social media, it’s about learning to set clear boundaries. My wife has IG and a few times a week we’ll watch reels on her phone before bed. We have a few laughs together and spend ten minutes on it tops. I consider it quality time and actually look forward to it.
All social media platforms are toxic platforms that rot your brain out, including this one. TikTok is not uniquely terrible, like every other platform, you have to curate a quality feed. My feed has a lot of language learning, history, and fiber arts. I prefer long form content, but sometimes I learn about California redwoods while praying on the porcelain throne.
I have concerns with children being on TikTok, but before it was TikTok it was iPad kids watching Elsa and Spider-Man pregnancy videos on YouTube. The problem is parental supervision.
While generally I’d agree with you, these apps are engineered to exploit human weaknesses to make a few people money and have real and measurable effects on the human psyche. From reduced attention spans due to short form or dense content, to problems with self-worth, these apps are literally bad for you if you engage with them a lot - which, again, they are engineered to get you to do. They are completely manipulative and not “just another fun thing”.
You can also have fun by reading a book. Or making something. Or going out.
I watch a tiktok maybe once a day. The algorithm is mostly cooking and science for me. It’s highly enjoyable content if you get past the noise and obviously don’t overuse it. That can be said for any social media app, including lemmy.
Imagine actually using TikTok. Life is too short to spend your time on that shit.
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That’s impressive. What got her to dump it?
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Sounds like she’s a winner and is growing up fast. Good for her
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Why must people yuck other people’s yum?
I used to watch Tiktok a lot. It’s the primary way I heard and learned about left side politics. It has it’s uses.
Yeah I genuinely see no difference between tiktok and other social media. Everyone on reddit/lemmy loves to hate on tiktok I never really got why. If it’s because of data collection they’re doing nothing any different than Facebook, insta, etc. Now X, that’s another story lol.
I think Western people just have a bias where it’s fine if their own country does it, but when their boogeyman China is doing the same exact thing, it’s all of the sudden scary and bad.
I, personally, think TikTok is not great for people or society, but I have the same exact feelings about Facebook, Instagram, and all of the major Western run social media stuff. TikTok is by no means any worse than them. For that reason, Lemmy is the only social media account I have at this point, but I dont judge anyone for using any of them. The majority of the people criticizing TikTok are hypocritical, for sure.
Yeah. All of these social media platforms are pretty bad. TikTok has been caught abusing android bugs, basically behaving like a virus. I’m sure the others have done something similar.
I agree! I think algorithms made with a profit incentive are harmful. I also think tiktok has been super impactful in a positive way to bring people together in a more human way than traditional sm allows for.
It’s harder to be a total dick when you have to show your face. I think that’s part of my TT seems more positive.
But Instagram reels are so mean
Lemmy is not better if your concerned about using your time wisely
True, but lemmy content is less click baity and less refreshed in general which makes me use it less, and I actually love that.
I don’t want more content!
I dunno. It’s full of articles, I’m reading news constantly, I’m discussing social topics with—now that I think I about it, surprisingly level headed people sharing interesting opinions….i learn a lot here. Sure, I also get shown really stupid shit. But I spend the majority of my time reading stuff. And looking up other stuff when I discuss things. So I’d disagree. Respectfully. My good friend.
It’s better because it includes the friction of clicking through instead of being force fed videos one after the other.
Time enjoyed is not wasted.
Of course, Tik Tok isn’t my jam, so it would be a waste of time for me.
Let’s not suggest that addiction to social media somehow counts as time enjoyed
“if you don’t enjoy the things I enjoy, it’s not real enjoyment”
Not even remotely close to what I said, nice false equivalency though
Everyone isn’t addicted to social media, it’s about learning to set clear boundaries. My wife has IG and a few times a week we’ll watch reels on her phone before bed. We have a few laughs together and spend ten minutes on it tops. I consider it quality time and actually look forward to it.
Same for tiktok for me. I love the weekly scroll with my SO.
I don’t use TikTok, but this comment has it backwards. Life is too short to deny yourself fun for some kind of perceived superiority.
Strongly disagree. Life is too short to spend your life on a toxic platform that rots your brain out
All social media platforms are toxic platforms that rot your brain out, including this one. TikTok is not uniquely terrible, like every other platform, you have to curate a quality feed. My feed has a lot of language learning, history, and fiber arts. I prefer long form content, but sometimes I learn about California redwoods while praying on the porcelain throne.
I have concerns with children being on TikTok, but before it was TikTok it was iPad kids watching Elsa and Spider-Man pregnancy videos on YouTube. The problem is parental supervision.
That kinda sounds just like a boomer opinion about anything on the internet.
While generally I’d agree with you, these apps are engineered to exploit human weaknesses to make a few people money and have real and measurable effects on the human psyche. From reduced attention spans due to short form or dense content, to problems with self-worth, these apps are literally bad for you if you engage with them a lot - which, again, they are engineered to get you to do. They are completely manipulative and not “just another fun thing”.
You can also have fun by reading a book. Or making something. Or going out.
Thanks, you make good points. I like your comment better than the one where the guy told me to eat shit.
That’s nice. Your opinion has as much value as a shit flavored lolly pop. Your favorite flavor.
You aren’t making a good case for Lemmy being better than TikTok
I can’t imagine that they would be trying to make that argument. 😮
I watch a tiktok maybe once a day. The algorithm is mostly cooking and science for me. It’s highly enjoyable content if you get past the noise and obviously don’t overuse it. That can be said for any social media app, including lemmy.