Biden’s approval rating was now 37% in favor and 60% disapproved, Kornacki noted.
It’s “the lowest approval rating since former President George W. Bush’s second term,” said Welker.
On voters’ confidence in handling the U.S. economy, Kornecki pointed to Trump’s 55% rating and Biden’s 33%.
Edit: here’s the MSNBC clip with Kornacki https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1754211558631084417
This garbage article didn’t even say who did the poll.
[an NBC person] “Over time, we have been testing for five years now, going back to 2019—a Biden-Trump match-up. Remember 2019, 2020 Joe Biden led. He led big in every single one of our polls. For the first time in November, Donald Trump pulled ahead in our poll. And now, at five points, this is the biggest lead NBC has ever had in 16 polls for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.”
It’s not the clearest, but the information is there.
It’s from NBC News…
Poll: 20-point deficit on handling economy highlights Biden’s struggles against Trump. The president’s approval rating has fallen to a new low in NBC News polling, as Trump narrowly leads in a 2024 general election matchup.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-economy-presidential-race-rcna136834
So instead of posting that, you posted this trash article? Why?
I read the one I posted first and then found you the NBC News source
How about waiting until you find a non-shit source before you post next time?
Here’s the direct clip with Kornacki: https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1754211558631084417
How about waiting until you find a non-shit source before you post next time?
Do you want to live in an echo chamber and only hear that everything is roses and butterflies in the Biden campaign? Or do you want reality?
Dude all you do is shit on Biden, and you find all sorts of dubious sources to do so. Are you sure you are left leaning?
I think it’s fair to make people aware of what Democrats are up against here. There’s an actual risk that Trump will return to the oval office if we don’t show up to vote. And, unfortunately, Democrats don’t show up to vote nearly as consistently as Republicans, so it’s a real risk.
The Huffington Post reporting on a NBC News poll is dubious now?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-economy-presidential-race-rcna136834
Regardless you really have been on a Biden busting bender. Are you actually voting for Trump?
Nobody is allowed to be critical of our politicians? What is this gatekeeping?
Nice complete dodge of the question.
I’ve said on this post and others I’m not voting for Trump. I’m far left, gay, and live in the Los Angeles area. F Trump.
Then what’s with all the Biden bashing? You think it’s going to help Trump lose? Biden sucks, but he’s better than Trump and there isn’t anyone else the dnc will let run.
You can vote for Biden and still be critical of him.
No you can be critical, hell look through my history… But this type of “points” news is a known tactic to demoralize. However, if you are trumpeting for Trump, at least be up front about it so we can sort you properly.
Reminder that national polls are useless because the United States doesn’t have national elections. There are 50 individual state elections, plus Washington D.C., which establish 535 Electoral College votes, 270 to win.
States like Washington, Oregon, California are going to Biden, no contest.
States like Texas, Louisiana, Alabama are going to Trump, no contest.
The election will be decided by the toss-up states. Unless the poll is talking about one of these states it can be safely ignored.
Arizona: Trump +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/arizona/Georgia: Trump +8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/georgia/Michigan: Trump +5 to +6
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/Minnesota: Biden +3
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/minnesota/Nevada: Trump +8 to +12
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nevada/New Mexico: Biden +8 but the most recent poll is from August which is effectively useless now.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/new-mexico/Pennsylvania: Biden +1 to +5
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/Wisconsin: Tie to Trump +3
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/Virginia: Biden +3, also an old poll, from December.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/virginia/Taking that information and plugging it into an electoral college map:
Trump wins 293 to 245.
This is a change from the last times I posted this where Trump won, 312 to 226 and 278 to 260. Michigan is still polling for Trump instead of Biden, Pennsylvania has BARELY slipped back to Biden.
Michigan and Wisconsin BOTH are must wins for Biden. He must also hold Pennsylania. Those three would put him at 270 even. Failing there is what doomed Hillary in 2016.
Previously, Biden needed to pick up +10.
Well, that’s disconcerting.
Oh, yeah, Imma be watching it like a HAWK through the rest of the primaries and the conventions.
I expect to do regular updates like this. It will be more of a nailbiter than anyone expects… Except for those of us in safe states.
I live in Oregon and I already know it’s going Biden. What worries me are these toss-up states.
The most idiotic part of this is the statement that it’s the lowest for an incumbent president since GWB. Guess what? Bush won reelection. The same thing is happening here. Biden is polling low, but will win. No one wants the dictator Trump in office.
W was the start of the current polarization era with Obama being the catalyst for the tea party chuds to pour fuel on the fire. With the current polarization, you’ll never see a president have the same sort of general approval or popularity we used to see.
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Weird how the Quinnipac poll from Friday said the opposite. It’s almost like the Media wants a horse race & you’re a sucker for it.
There is a reason these polls ask how you feel instead of who you plan on voting for.
Also, +5 points? Nationwide Dems have been beating polls at the ballot box by +9 points since Roe v. Wade was overturned.
Why use yahoo news?
It’s all rehosted content, and for some reason freezes my phones browser like half the time.
I will not take any of these statistics until the real thing happens. They’ve done this bullshit back in 2020 and the result took most by surprise.
We’ve been ringing the alarm for awhile now, is it time to replace Biden to stop Trump?
With whom? Harris and Newsom both poll losing to Trump. Harris is less popular than Biden, and Newsom isn’t an incumbent. Biden is the candidate in 24 for the same reason he was in 20. He’s the best candidate to beat Trump.
The people “ringing the alarm” are out of touch socialists and anarchists, and more frequently, Republicans, foreign operatives, and grievancers who aren’t voting anyway.
I would have loved to see a Sanders presidency in my lifetime. Well, it didn’t happen. Fortunately, Joe Biden has proven a remarkably effective president under phenomenally difficult circumstances, and his bad numbers are less a product of his administration and more the result of record voter unhappiness and the stranglehold of Trump on US politics. That’s not a problem that’s solved by pushing a new candidate on stage, because any other Democrat is going to have the same baggage or worse, assuming they’re not outright unelectable.
Hey, some of us out-of-touch socialists are voting for Biden anyway.
I’m an out of touch socialist myself, and I’ll be voting for Joe Biden with my head held high. Point is there’s a lot of sacrifice-the-good-for-the-perfect “left-wing” protesting on here that will suppress voter turnout by attempting to dampen enthusiasm for President Biden. Taking it at face value, it’s coming from people who are unhappy he’s not a European socialist; being a little more cynical, I find it hard to believe anyone who suggests we drop the incumbent mid-primary season doesn’t have an ulterior motive.
My philosophy is that if you vote for the lesser of two evils, which some feel is what is going on in this election, the net result is less evil.
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Gretchen Whitmer. You get Michigan and a somewhat progressive. Win-win.
Unfortunately, it looks like it’s too late now and we might get another Trump presidency. Great job Dems! Infuriating! Before you say “are you voting for Biden?” I’m in California and will not. My vote doesn’t matter here. I’ll still be voting for all the other local elections though.
You’re not voting?
Lol. Lmao, even.
You’re handing Trump a victory and oushing anti-Biden shit to get him elected and make dems elated. Good job doing that geriatric fuck’s dirty work.
I’m in California
You missed the critical bit. Voting for the least worst option when your vote cannot make a difference is worse than pointless.
And Biden will only win if enough people realise the alternative is possible. Thank the OP for their service and quit annoying people who might just hold their noses and vote where it counts.
Read it again. I’m voting for all the local and statewide elections. I refuse to vote for Biden based on he hasn’t earned my vote and doesn’t align with my beliefs, I don’t support his genocide in Gaza. That’s democracy. You are free to vote for whoever you want or don’t vote.
That’s democracy. You are free to vote for whoever you want or don’t vote.
Absolutely correct. And we’re going to point out that your position is to support MORE genocide in Gaza via Trump. The person you are helping elect. You can support Trump electorally without voting for him. You are making a conscious effort to support Trump and all the awful horrible shit he brings along. That should be pointed out every single time this gets brought up.
If the goal is to help Gaza, wouldn’t the best course of action be to support the candidate that results in less harm? Or does less dead civilians not align with your beliefs? Is there a single shred of evidence that a Trump administration would result in any improvement whatsoever? Because there sure is a fuckload of evidence that it wouldn’t.
Neither do I, but I’m still not blind enough to throw my vote away and pout when a dicactor is incubating within our borders.
Better tell Joe to step it up then and earn more votes.
Good thing your lack of vote only encourages more genocide in both Gaza and in Ukraine with Trump
“I choose to be part of the problem.”
I don’t think most anybody is ecstatic with either. The fly in the ointment is that these two parties are not beholden to the electorate at all - they run exactly who they please, and their ‘primaries’ are ultimately an at-will dog and pony show.
Biden will not be replaced, the only thing that can prevent the sitting President from running again is the President themselves having 2nd thoughts. See Johnson, 1968.
As long as Biden wants to run, he’s the nominee.
That might change if he or Trump has a medical event that removes them, or if a conviction throws Trump in prison.
We won’t really know until the Republican convention in July. If nothing blocks Trump from the nomination, Biden is running.
Can you imagine if Trump got put in jail and then Biden dropped dead of a heart attack. It would be an absolute clusterfuck of an election, and yet possibly better than what we’re facing right now. Only downside is the potential for a Republican to possibly win in that case, but on the upside it would be hard for the Democrats to come up with a worse candidate than Biden.
There was a really good novel exploring scenarios like that. It was called “The People’s Choice” by Jeff Greenfield of all people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People's_Choice_(novel)
Gag was this… Election goes off without a hitch, candidate gets 270+ EC votes, but dies BEFORE the EC count is certified.
So… it just goes to the VP, right? Nope. The VP candidate is not actually VP yet and can’t step in.
Great read if you’re in to politics and stuff.
And yet no one can ever say who could/would replace him. Curious.
Gavin Newsome is the obvious choice. But we’ll have the same problem in '28. The DNC will want Harris in another “her turn” election and that would be a disaster. Nobody likes her, not even the people working with her.
Except Newsom loses to Trump by a bigger margin than Biden (although he seems to fare better than Harris, at least as of the most recent information I can find at a glance). I absolutely agree that if Biden wins another term and survives until the end of it, the DNC may well have a problem with Harris–and they absolutely need to start now if they’re going to do anything about that–but I’ve yet to see anyone propose a candidate who consistently outperforms Biden in a hypothetical matchup against Trump. Hanging the party’s national hopes on Newsom in 4 years if Harris doesn’t fix her image problem between now and then isn’t the worst idea (assuming the Republic makes it that long), but the notion that the party should drop the sitting president in favor of an up-and-comer who performs worse than him after delegates are already being awarded strikes me as unrealistic, to be generous. To be less generous, I think in a great many cases on Lemmy, it’s just outright disingenuous.
Newsom has a strong record in California to run on, the only reason he’s low in the polls is he’s not running and nobody knows who he is. Shit, I KNOW who he is and I still mis-spelled his name in my last reply.
I’d legit prefer someone more to the left of Biden, Sanders, Warren.
People still want to back someone far too old? Jerry Brown is still kicking around. His takedown of Whitman was the stuff of legends:
is it time to replace Biden
And by what anti-democratic process are you suggesting this be done?
Easy. He bows out and the DNC endorses Gretchen Whitmer.
Welp, I did ask for anti-democratic process and you sure gave me one.
It has to be done before the convention though, otherwise it will look… awkward.
Edit: The more I think about it. The more excited I get. You lose the baggage of Israel. White. Female. You gain a swing state. Survived an assassination attempt. Did I mention she’s white.
