I’m sure many new users are curious.
- Until we have migration tools, think of your account as disposable
- Never upload anything you don’t want the world to see, no matter how private something claims to be
Can you explain the migration tools, or lack thereof.
In the mastodon/Calckey world you can migrate your account on one instance to a new account on a new instance and all the people following you will transfer and automatically follow your new account. So you don’t have to be all “Hey moving to [xyz new instance] follow me there!”
That’s something that’s in the works for kbin and Lemmy some day
I’m curious if that works with unfederated servers or servers that simple just get shutdown. Ie xyz government decides to raid the servers, (is there redundancy in the data?)
I guess the main challenge would be proving to the new instance that the old offline instance authorized the transfer, maybe something like a keypair could be generated with each account and a signed proof attached to the user profile that gets federated around as other servers receive user profile objects, then provide an account backup function that lets you save the keys as a file so the importing server can verify the key and federate the change of ownership of content to other instances somehow.
Currently, no. Right now you tell your new instance to expect a transfer from your old. Then you tell your old your new instance and if they match, the transfer begins. In your example, you wouldn’t be able to do half the steps needed so it would fail. And since each server is unique, it would be up to them whether or not there were any backups or not.
Thanks! Are the systems standalone or can they be distributed or mirrored? Seems like a potental single point of failure if the instance is literally running on someone’s personal server.
That is unfortunately beyond my knowledge. I’ve never read up on settimg up an instance so I’m not sure. From the user side, I don’t think most people mirror their instances, since most are volunteers renting space somewhere or running a small home instance for themselves or a small group.
I have seen the owner of an instance announce that they were shutting down in three months and to find a new home on a couple of occasions. Not quite the same, but a similar impermanence.
I guess they’re talking about migrating your account from an instance to another
This whole system is a lot newer than most services you’ve used on the Internet. It’s under constant change. Expect it to look different next week, month, or year.
Agreed. The systems are being flooded from the migration. Communities are quickly being formed. A little patience and people rolling up their sleeves to make it better go a long way.
There isn’t explicitly a profit motive on here (unlike almost every other big social media site).
So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming…
We don’t do that here.
“So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming…”
Are there many individual users who participate in these type of activities?
My understanding is that a lot of it is automated: farming with the intent to make accounts look legitimate and eventually manipulate public opinion to whatever ends (like selling a product/service).
Is kbin doing anything different that would curb or dissuade such behavior?
Yeah, but the ROI here is way less since the users are more savvy initially. Eventually it’ll homogenize out and you’ll get auto bots.
This post written by a meat popsicle.
On that note, upvotes and downvotes upvote matter even less here (“here” meaning kbin) as the factor dictating comment order in the “hot” ranking is boosting (think retweet equivalent), not the vote count.
Not sure how that goes on Lemmy though.
On lemmy, you can tick off ‘show read posts’ in settings, so viewed posts are hidden.
This has been quite useful in keeping my feed fresh.
Don’t forget to hit the CTRL button when clicking on any external links so they open in a new tab. Basically pretend it’s 2012 again.
Or use the middle mouse button.
When you submit a reply or a post, always save it to your clipboard first. Lemmy has swallowed my responses many many times. In fact, it took me about 5-6 attempts to submit this comment.
You can find all those bad people who got banned on reddit here and they have to be banned again :D
Can somebody ELI5 the difference between kbin and lemmy. I think I understand lemmy being like mastadon. Who is hosting kbin?
Kbin is also like Mastadon. It’s basically the same thing as lemmy, just with a slightly different user interface. (I personally like it better, which is why I’m here, lol.)
The main kbin instance, kbin.social, is hosted by a guy called @Ernest, who’s also the main (only?) dev who created kbin. But there are other kbin instances hosted by totally unaffiliated people, too.
I’m no expert but I can do my best. Kbin was created by @ernest, and is actually a very young platform compared to even Lemmy. It let’s you post threads, similar to Reddit or Lemmy. Like Lemmy, it also uses something called ActivityPub, which means that Kbin users can see and comment on Lemmy threads and vice versa as long as the instances (ex. Lemmy.world, kbin.social) are “federated” meaning that they are talking to each other.
One of the big differences is that Kbin supports microblogging as well, similar to a Mastodon or Twitter post. Because of this, you can see and interact with content on Mastodon from Kbin much more easily, which also uses ActivityPub. Lemmy can also technically interact with Mastodon but it is not as seamless as threads don’t display that well on a microblog and vice versa.
There’s some more technical and cultural differences as well but I think that’s the biggest difference in function.
If you want Lemmy to be successful, contribute as much high quality content as possible so more people will be inclined to stay here. Don’t lurk.
Set your language preference to undecided and English so all posts display correctly. I kept seeing communities with “no posts” till I did this
For kbin users, have a play in the settings area - the cog in the hamburger menu top left. You can customise it to look a bit like old.reddit, or Rif, or Sync by turning settings on and off. (previews, thumbnails, top bar etc.)
Filter by New so you don’t see the same few posts every time to open Lemmy.
… or
top dayif you want more established posts with lively comment sections that age out after 24h.
https://kilioa.org/m/kbinMeta@kbin.social/t/266
Good information here.
Don’t feed the trolls. Just block them and move on. If you find an entire instance has started hosting bad actors, you can block that instance too.
Question: is there a way to save posts or comments?
Yes of course. In the web app there’s a little star icon you can click and on jebora theres a little badge next to the vote buttons
Commenting to see if anyone answers this because I don’t know how to save it
Yes you click the star to save post and comments and it’s in the more button next to the reply button if you don’t see it.
At least on my instance, you can click the three dots under the post to open up some expanded options, then click the star to save the post.
On Jerboa, there should be a little bookmark icon under each post.
Oh hey, the star is there for me too. As an old, I sometimes have issues recognizing all the diverse pictograms that modern tech design uses. Many of them are not intuitive, or are not standardized enough to assume any meaning without prior experience. In this case they’re also really tiny on a phone screen.
Thanks for the tip.
