ROUND 2: 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia

FORMULA 1 STC SAUDI ARABIAN GRAND PRIX 2024

Circuit stats

  • First Grand Prix: 2021
  • Number of laps: 50
  • Circuit Length: 6.174 km
  • Race Distance: 308.45 km
  • Lap record: 1:30.734 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
  • 2023 winner: Sergio Perez

Track Map

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  • Willem@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    18·
    10 months ago

    Has someone else noticed that from certain camera angles the colours are off, most visibly on the mclarens?

  • l_b_i@yiffit.net
    13·
    10 months ago

    “I hit the wall.”
    “Can you bring it back?”
    “No I hit the ****** wall”

  • LCP@lemmy.world
    9·
    10 months ago

    Bearman 🐐🐐🐐🐐

    He’s possibly scored more points today than some drivers will in this entire season.

  • Sentau
    72·
    10 months ago

    If that Norris start is not a jump start then I don’t know what is

    • l_b_i@yiffit.net
      71·
      10 months ago

      The jump starts are based on telemetry, if he was behind the sensor in his box and moved and was still behind, no jump start. You can technically start moving early, so long as you don’t cross the sensor before the lights go out.

      • guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works
        31·
        10 months ago

        I hope this is not going to give others ideas though. Don’t want to see the guys line up further back just to try and get more momentum before the lights.

        • misery mansion@lemmy.world
          4·
          10 months ago

          His start was massively compromised as a result, since he stopped and started again.

          Arguably defined his race v Piastri all told. I think it was right to not penalise him tbh

          • guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works
            11·
            10 months ago

            I agree that it was detrimental to him this time around since he lost focus and actually started far after the others because of it. I’m still interested in seeing if the decision was made because he actually fucked his own start or if it was because the sensors didn’t detect the jump though. If it’s the sensors I believe it could open pandora’s box as it would be a definitive advantage to get even the slightest of rolls before dropping the clutch.

            • misery mansion@lemmy.world
              2·
              10 months ago

              I think the rule of thumb is if you catch it and stop before starting again you’re broadly OK. It happened in 2020 IIRC with the same result but for the life of me, I can’t remember who

              • Sentau
                3·
                10 months ago

                I think the rule of thumb is if you catch it and stop before starting again you’re broadly OK.

                This is not the rule. The rule as it currently exists is completely based on if the sensor detects movements which are greater than the amount specified by the regs. If Norris had started moving 0.05 seconds before lights out but moved a low enough distance as to not trigger the sensor, it is considered a legal start even if he made no attempt to ‘catch it’.

                • guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Yep that’s exactly my concern. This seems abusable. Drivers could theoretically stop further back from the grid and use that distance to get the car rolling before fully dropping the clutch, limiting tire slip. Someone posted the rules about grid placement and while there is a rule against sideways position or angle, there isn’t anything about being further back. It’s probably not going to happen but I personally would try that short rolling start in practice just to see.

        • l_b_i@yiffit.net
          2·
          10 months ago

          Its happened before, I remember Bottas 2020 in Hungary. As far as I know, the timing for the final lights out is random so you can’t reliably time it.

          • guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            10 months ago

            Yeah I remember him having a crazy 0.00something reaction time. I even remember Vettel straight up saying he didn’t believe that in post races interviews. It was probably a case of perfect anticipation more than reaction.

            • l_b_i@yiffit.net
              1·
              10 months ago

              Trying to find it, I think your thinking of Japan 2019, but I’m not sure.
              I was just looking back at Hungary, and he was reacting to something in the car. Same forward, stop, start that happened here.

              • Sentau
                1·
                10 months ago

                The above comment is referring to Austria 2017 where bottas made an incredible start. It was certain he had predicted the lights and not reacted. He started moving almost simultaneously with the light going out.

      • Sentau
        1·
        10 months ago

        I am aware of this. He moved an awful in the race so I don’t get how he didn’t cross the sensor. He looked past the white line when the lights went out.

  • LCP@lemmy.world
    5·
    10 months ago

    Bearman up to 9th. He’s absolutely killing it.

    Edit: aw he lost the position

    Edit: He got it back 💪

  • Sentau
    5·
    10 months ago

    Two things.

    1. How has Norris not got a penalty yet.
    2. How is Perez not being investigated yet.

    Are the stewards asleep¿?

  • LCP@lemmy.world
    51·
    10 months ago

    10s penalty for Magnussen? No penalty for Norris?

    Interesting decisions.

  • 💡dim@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    10 months ago

    McLaren and Mercedes didn’t double stack because…

    gambling on another s/c i guess?

      • 💡dim@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        i mean, you can slow down the second car before hitting the pits and then crawl in the pit lane, only needs a 5 second gap or so

        • l_b_i@yiffit.net
          1·
          10 months ago

          If you have no one behind, sure, but you can get a penalty if you cause the car behind to slow down.