I would say it’s worse in Trump’s case because Ivanka and Jared had been working for the white house. Jared also had security clearance which he never should have had.
When Hunter works for the government or runs for office, then I’ll care. Right now he’s just a private citizen and he doesn’t seem to have any influence in his father’s job.
But you’ll notice a deafening absence of criticism from the right when The Idiot’s children did all this and much worse, and vanishingly little liberal defense of Hunter.
There is no great Democratic hypocrisy on this subject. He was going to plead guilty and be sentenced and nobody really objected. What he did was undesirable and gross and apparently over-the-line, but it’s not much of a scandal even on pre-Idiot levels. (Five or six years of constantly going “holy shit what the fuck is going on?” has tilted that scale to where this barely registers.)
On the other hand - Republicans suddenly feigning deep concern about nepotism and propriety is so two-faced that it’s not even funny. Idiot Junior, whats-her-face, and Eric were only outdone in classical naked corruption by The Idiot himself, because he’s too stupid to know why people act coy about it. He pardoned Rod Blagojevich. His children aren’t screaming narcissists, so their efforts were slightly more subtle, while still including overt criminal behavior.
Tjey should at least investigate jared and Ivanka in the white house and their business dealings. Like how he got a bailout on his tower and the $2 bill from the Saudis. Did Jared trade our secrets and security for $2 billion?
Because it’s not worth the resources to worry about. The GOP is just doing it because they don’t actually know how to govern; they need something they can point to that looks like they’re actually doing something, and they know it spins up their low education voters.
Pretty much this. The democrats put their resources into passing infrastructure and inflation bills and investigating the events around Jan 6.
Everyone agrees that the Trump kids got up to no good but the relative seriousness of their crimes compared to everything else Trump did was pretty small.
Since the Republicans have no actual dirt on Joe Biden and are about as capable of passing legislation as a bag of ornery chipmunks, they latch onto these ‘scandals’ that would barely be a blip for any Republican administration.
Nepotism isn’t actually illegal (though it’d be nice if it were)
You can’t prosecute someone based on laws you feel should exist. That’s what fascists do.
If you have issues with this sort of thing (which happens at all levels of politics and business, not just with Trump and Biden), then you should write your representative about it and advocate for new laws to be made.
Hell, id cosign that letter, but I wouldn’t advocate for the prosecution of someone based on laws that don’t exist, not even the Trumps (though I do happily advocate the many prosecutions underway for the things they’ve done that are genuinely illegal)
That circular reasoning. Investigations are conducted based on evidence. If there’s no evidence of illegality, then there’s no reason to investigate. You can’t just go violating somebody’s rights because you suspect something. That’s why cops have to get warrants.
It’s bad in the sense that I wouldn’t want to hang out with someone who did it, but there’s nothing illegal in using your famous parent to get a leg up in your own dealings.
It makes you seem like a spoiled trust fund kiddy, but last time I checked, being obnoxious isn’t actually a crime.
The point being made isn’t that it’s OK for Hunter but bad for the Trump kids, it’s that its being made out as a conspiracy and crime for Hunter by republicans, whereas those same Republicans had no issue whatsoever with the Trump kids doing it (and continuing to do it today)
I think if either party wants to be taken seriously, they should start by looking within their own party and prove that nobody is above the law.
Trumps, Bidens I don’t care. But instead of attacking your political opponent’s family, why not show the world what you stand for yourself by persecuting those within your own party.
Are you under the impression the democrats don’t do that? Every time I’ve seen a democrat scandal in recent history at least, they call for the guilty to step down and, where possible, remove them.
Are you under the impression the democrats don’t do that?
Where exactly did I say democrats aren’t narcissists?
I’m not defending biden or trump - I specifically said …
Trumps, Bidens I don’t care.
Nobody is above the law. But if you want me to take you seriously when the other side is in party, focus on your own side first and lead by example.
Neither side is innocent.
Personally over my life I have voted for candidates of both parties depending on who it was and the time in my life. But I have never voted for the same candidate in two elections, because not a single candidate has ever proven to me that they are worth a second vote. Maybe I’ve just lived in some crummy regions, but I don’t get how someone can vote for these politicians election after election
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It’s not great, but it’s also not a big deal. Kids flaunt their famous parents.
The difference here? Trump’s kids actually legit sold access, with their father’s enthusiastic consent* and involvement.
*The only time he’s ever cared about consent
I would say it’s worse in Trump’s case because Ivanka and Jared had been working for the white house. Jared also had security clearance which he never should have had.
When Hunter works for the government or runs for office, then I’ll care. Right now he’s just a private citizen and he doesn’t seem to have any influence in his father’s job.
The answer in this case is neither.
But you’ll notice a deafening absence of criticism from the right when The Idiot’s children did all this and much worse, and vanishingly little liberal defense of Hunter.
There is no great Democratic hypocrisy on this subject. He was going to plead guilty and be sentenced and nobody really objected. What he did was undesirable and gross and apparently over-the-line, but it’s not much of a scandal even on pre-Idiot levels. (Five or six years of constantly going “holy shit what the fuck is going on?” has tilted that scale to where this barely registers.)
On the other hand - Republicans suddenly feigning deep concern about nepotism and propriety is so two-faced that it’s not even funny. Idiot Junior, whats-her-face, and Eric were only outdone in classical naked corruption by The Idiot himself, because he’s too stupid to know why people act coy about it. He pardoned Rod Blagojevich. His children aren’t screaming narcissists, so their efforts were slightly more subtle, while still including overt criminal behavior.
This isn’t strictly true, but even if it were, do you see anyone on the democratic side opening investigations into the Trump kids doing this?
Tjey should at least investigate jared and Ivanka in the white house and their business dealings. Like how he got a bailout on his tower and the $2 bill from the Saudis. Did Jared trade our secrets and security for $2 billion?
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Because it’s not worth the resources to worry about. The GOP is just doing it because they don’t actually know how to govern; they need something they can point to that looks like they’re actually doing something, and they know it spins up their low education voters.
Pretty much this. The democrats put their resources into passing infrastructure and inflation bills and investigating the events around Jan 6.
Everyone agrees that the Trump kids got up to no good but the relative seriousness of their crimes compared to everything else Trump did was pretty small.
Since the Republicans have no actual dirt on Joe Biden and are about as capable of passing legislation as a bag of ornery chipmunks, they latch onto these ‘scandals’ that would barely be a blip for any Republican administration.
Because of all the things they did that are crimes, that’s not one of them.
This implies that the republicans had a good idea, which should have given you pause for thought in and of itself.
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Nepotism isn’t actually illegal (though it’d be nice if it were)
You can’t prosecute someone based on laws you feel should exist. That’s what fascists do.
If you have issues with this sort of thing (which happens at all levels of politics and business, not just with Trump and Biden), then you should write your representative about it and advocate for new laws to be made.
Hell, id cosign that letter, but I wouldn’t advocate for the prosecution of someone based on laws that don’t exist, not even the Trumps (though I do happily advocate the many prosecutions underway for the things they’ve done that are genuinely illegal)
Actually it is illegal for the president to hire family members. There was a law passed that says exactly that.
Is that true? Then how did Trump have his whole family employed during his presidency? I’m sure the democrats wouldn’t have just let that go
I’m not sure. But it is true. Google president nepotism law.
If you can produce any evidence that they did anything illegal, then, yes, there should be an investigation into that. 
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That circular reasoning. Investigations are conducted based on evidence. If there’s no evidence of illegality, then there’s no reason to investigate. You can’t just go violating somebody’s rights because you suspect something. That’s why cops have to get warrants.
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Only because he placed them into public servant governmental roles. Those are specific and unique.
It’s bad in the sense that I wouldn’t want to hang out with someone who did it, but there’s nothing illegal in using your famous parent to get a leg up in your own dealings.
It makes you seem like a spoiled trust fund kiddy, but last time I checked, being obnoxious isn’t actually a crime.
The point being made isn’t that it’s OK for Hunter but bad for the Trump kids, it’s that its being made out as a conspiracy and crime for Hunter by republicans, whereas those same Republicans had no issue whatsoever with the Trump kids doing it (and continuing to do it today)
I think if either party wants to be taken seriously, they should start by looking within their own party and prove that nobody is above the law.
Trumps, Bidens I don’t care. But instead of attacking your political opponent’s family, why not show the world what you stand for yourself by persecuting those within your own party.
“Lead by example”
Are you under the impression the democrats don’t do that? Every time I’ve seen a democrat scandal in recent history at least, they call for the guilty to step down and, where possible, remove them.
Where exactly did I say democrats aren’t narcissists?
I’m not defending biden or trump - I specifically said …
Nobody is above the law. But if you want me to take you seriously when the other side is in party, focus on your own side first and lead by example.
Neither side is innocent.
Personally over my life I have voted for candidates of both parties depending on who it was and the time in my life. But I have never voted for the same candidate in two elections, because not a single candidate has ever proven to me that they are worth a second vote. Maybe I’ve just lived in some crummy regions, but I don’t get how someone can vote for these politicians election after election