They recovered four, three of them AT the crash sites! How. The black boxes didn’t even survive. cat-confused

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    The bloodlust immediately after 9/11 was the highest I’ve seen in my lifetime, much like Oct 7th has been for the Zionist project. I could maybe buy that 9/11 was orchestrated to not just invade countries but to rally Americans around the flag and secure the empire as the End of History.

    Except Bush didn’t do that. He could have pointed the finger at anyone and used that to orient the imperial project, but instead of using his biggest political windfall to start a war with Iran he blew his political capital on Afghanistan and then Iraq. Maybe he thought those would be easier occupations and he could use them to build momentum for Iran, but I don’t see it. It just seems opportunist, rather than planned.

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      I’ll say again, the meme boiling-down of the broad category of 9/11 truth to “bush did 9/11” has been a disaster. that’s not what we mean when we say there is more to the story lol. the commission was undeniably a massive coverup and the people deserve to know the truth of every aspect of the story, that’s what we mean.

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        we know it wasn’t literally Bush slipping some hijackers a twenty under the table and asking them to hijack planes. We understand that you’re proposing a complex and long-running plan that would have originated prior to the start of his term. He just would have had to be complicit, and as the head of state at the time, the turn of phrase is the easiest by saying that he did it.

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          i just want Americans to stop blindly reinforcing the state department narrative around this lol. I know it’s hard and you’ve been very heavily propagandized about it but try to apply the same level of critical thought you would to something less close to home

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            The 9/11 Truth well has been thoroughly poisoned in America by the the insistence on repeating bad engineering concepts: the “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” memes, the “squibs” as air compressed by a falling building blew out windows and the “basement explosions” caused by the same, the insistence that a cruise missile hit the Pentagon because the plane didn’t leave a perfectly plane shaped hole like a cartoon and the security camera with terrible frame rate and resolution. These crank memes that don’t hold up under scrutiny don’t help anyone’s case, and yet they’re always all over every thread about it because people don’t investigate, just repeat.

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              wow I wonder what caused people to start theorising wildly about what happened, it could be the fact it’s completely obvious the official report is a cover up and a crock of lies. the things you’re pointing at are symptoms of the people being lied to about this, not just “wow those 9/11 people are so wacky”

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      It’s true. Any action in the middle east or central Asia would be completely unquestioned as long as a lot of people got killed. So we got a giant money laundering scheme disguised ad wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.