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    Yes I want you to provide a name of a country that developed into an authoritarian state without prodding from imperialism.

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      The Han Dynasty. The Russian Empire. Nazi Germany. The “Estado Novo” of Portugal. Francoist Spain.

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        6 months ago

        All that you list apart from François Spain were imperial countries… I’m going to assume your trolling.

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          All that you list apart from François Spain were imperial countries… I’m going to assume your trolling.

          Wait, so now you’re changing the criteria from “Countries which turned authoritarian without prodding from imperialism” to “Countries that were authoritarian without being imperialist”? How the fuck is that at all relevant, then, to the very imperialist Soviet Union?

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            This is turning into semantics. How can a country that is imperial not be effected(prodded) by imperialism?

            I was making a point of the ridiculousness of your prior comment. Well done I guess.

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              How can a country that is imperial not be effected(prodded) by imperialism?

              So you’re including self-prodding by imperialism. In that case, the fuck was your point about the Soviet Secret Police being necessary and justified because of imperialism? Are you just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks at this point?