Do you have any idea the size and populations of Russian occupied Ukraine? 20,000 kids being moved away from the frontline, that are getting returned as parents are identified, is not cultural genocide, and if you want to talk about dehumanisation look no further than the term “orcs”. You’re talking about cultural suppression like the Ukrainian government hasn’t been actively attacking it’s own people in Donetsk and Luhansk for not being Ukrainian enough. I know you deeply trust those publications, but if you can’t Intuit it I really don’t know how to tell you that you shouldn’t be placing your faith in any regime’s estimations about their opponents. Try going with actually factual data.
P.s. all of the numbers are the most conservative estimates, I’m using verifiable figures rather than US and Ukrainian Nazis saying the russians are definitely doing all the worst things ever
P.p.s we are on the internet, not using a typewriter or writing by hand - you don’t need to postscript anything, you can just move the cursor back up the page to insert additional information.
Do you have any idea the size and populations of Russian occupied Ukraine? 20,000 kids being moved away from the frontline, that are getting returned as parents are identified, is not cultural genocide
Oh, I forgot, abducting children is OK, because there are enough more. Sure. Also, you forgot about the part where these children are reeducated to become russian citizens and despise or forget their ukrainian background. That is the cultural eradication. And those kids would still be with their parents if Putin’s Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine, in many cases killed their parents and destroyed their home. Russia is the aggressor, don’t forget about that.
and if you want to talk about dehumanisation look no further than the term “orcs”.
And that means dehumanization and genocide ukrainian civilians is fine? Btw, I never condoned the term “orcs” and I don’t like it. So stop your strawman right there please.
You’re talking about cultural suppression like the Ukrainian government hasn’t been actively attacking it’s own people in Donetsk and Luhansk for not being Ukrainian enough.
There has been no evidence for that, only russian allegations.
I know you deeply trust those publications, but if you can’t Intuit it I really don’t know how to tell you that you shouldn’t be placing your faith in any regime’s estimations about their opponents. Try going with actually factual data.
Intuition and faith are no measurements we should use. Factual data is evidential, not faith and intuition. You have yet to provide fact-based sources.
p.s.: Again, you have yet to provide verifiable sources. And sure, call everyone Nazis except those who act like Nazis.
these children are reeducated to become russian citizens
These are war orphans. And Eastern Ukraine has been culturally Russian for centuries. Even Zelensky is a native Russian speaker.
Do you think a 10-year old native Russian speaker war orphan from the Avdeyevka war zone is getting culturally eradicated because at the orphanage they teach them more about Pushkin than Shevchenko? Do you not see how obscene to use the very same word (“genocide”) for this and for what Israel does in Gaza?
Or do you think Putin wants to abduct children to brainwash them en masse like some comic book villain? Surely you can’t be this gullible, right?
There has been no evidence for that, only russian allegations.
The right wing Ukrainian regime has been terrible for all non-ukrainians, not just Russians. They also have been racist against Hungarians and other minorities in Western Ukraine.
War is bad that’s why there should be a ceasefire and actual peace talks in Ukraine as soon as possible. The West has no moral standing.
u c, i am very smart, so i wud leave the childs alone to die in the street after taking over their cities
Yes, I’m sure you’re so kind for avoiding the appearance of impropriety
that means dehumanization […] ukrainian civilians is fine?
No, it simply means you have nowhere to go with your “russia is being dehumanising” rhetoric - you’re trying to use the idea to build the case that there’s a unique injustice being committed against Ukranians, but they’re not even getting dehumanised as much as they’re dehumanising russians by referring to them as a fantasy species of mutated elves bred for war.
There has been no evidence for that, only the 2014-2022 war in Donbass
Like really, are you 12? I could understand this if you were distracted for the last decade, but you’d have to be pretty young still to not know about it.
Factual data is evidential, not faith and intuition.
Intuition is the ability to gather or understand factual data while skipping the conscious level of reasoning - it’s why we try to create intuitive designs that people can engage with without specialist training. You are the one placing blind faith in people’s reports about how their enemies are actually the worst people ever, while I don’t need to start thinking to understand that’s a fucking stupid idea. Evidently you do though, so you should start thinking about reasons people might not be completely truthful while talking about their enemies, instead of claiming you’re using factual data.
Nazi is when war
come the fuck on
like really, just grow the fuck up. The russians are at war. War shit is happening. The Ukranians can’t stop wearing actual icons and symbology of the literal 1939-45 NSDAP.
pee.pee. In english it’s called a postscript. They’re used to include additional information that you forgot to the first time around - your insistance on them is the equivalent of double posting all your replies then saying you like the style when people piont out what the edit button is for.
Do you have any idea the size and populations of Russian occupied Ukraine? 20,000 kids being moved away from the frontline, that are getting returned as parents are identified, is not cultural genocide, and if you want to talk about dehumanisation look no further than the term “orcs”. You’re talking about cultural suppression like the Ukrainian government hasn’t been actively attacking it’s own people in Donetsk and Luhansk for not being Ukrainian enough. I know you deeply trust those publications, but if you can’t Intuit it I really don’t know how to tell you that you shouldn’t be placing your faith in any regime’s estimations about their opponents. Try going with actually factual data.
P.s. all of the numbers are the most conservative estimates, I’m using verifiable figures rather than US and Ukrainian Nazis saying the russians are definitely doing all the worst things ever
P.p.s we are on the internet, not using a typewriter or writing by hand - you don’t need to postscript anything, you can just move the cursor back up the page to insert additional information.
Oh, I forgot, abducting children is OK, because there are enough more. Sure. Also, you forgot about the part where these children are reeducated to become russian citizens and despise or forget their ukrainian background. That is the cultural eradication. And those kids would still be with their parents if Putin’s Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine, in many cases killed their parents and destroyed their home. Russia is the aggressor, don’t forget about that.
And that means dehumanization and genocide ukrainian civilians is fine? Btw, I never condoned the term “orcs” and I don’t like it. So stop your strawman right there please.
There has been no evidence for that, only russian allegations.
Intuition and faith are no measurements we should use. Factual data is evidential, not faith and intuition. You have yet to provide fact-based sources.
p.s.: Again, you have yet to provide verifiable sources. And sure, call everyone Nazis except those who act like Nazis.
p.p.s.: I like using post scriptum.
These are war orphans. And Eastern Ukraine has been culturally Russian for centuries. Even Zelensky is a native Russian speaker.
Do you think a 10-year old native Russian speaker war orphan from the Avdeyevka war zone is getting culturally eradicated because at the orphanage they teach them more about Pushkin than Shevchenko? Do you not see how obscene to use the very same word (“genocide”) for this and for what Israel does in Gaza?
Or do you think Putin wants to abduct children to brainwash them en masse like some comic book villain? Surely you can’t be this gullible, right?
The right wing Ukrainian regime has been terrible for all non-ukrainians, not just Russians. They also have been racist against Hungarians and other minorities in Western Ukraine.
War is bad that’s why there should be a ceasefire and actual peace talks in Ukraine as soon as possible. The West has no moral standing.
Here’s Ukrainian Adolf from the SS brigade:
Yes, I’m sure you’re so kind for avoiding the appearance of impropriety
No, it simply means you have nowhere to go with your “russia is being dehumanising” rhetoric - you’re trying to use the idea to build the case that there’s a unique injustice being committed against Ukranians, but they’re not even getting dehumanised as much as they’re dehumanising russians by referring to them as a fantasy species of mutated elves bred for war.
Like really, are you 12? I could understand this if you were distracted for the last decade, but you’d have to be pretty young still to not know about it.
Intuition is the ability to gather or understand factual data while skipping the conscious level of reasoning - it’s why we try to create intuitive designs that people can engage with without specialist training. You are the one placing blind faith in people’s reports about how their enemies are actually the worst people ever, while I don’t need to start thinking to understand that’s a fucking stupid idea. Evidently you do though, so you should start thinking about reasons people might not be completely truthful while talking about their enemies, instead of claiming you’re using factual data.
come the fuck on
like really, just grow the fuck up. The russians are at war. War shit is happening. The Ukranians can’t stop wearing actual icons and symbology of the literal 1939-45 NSDAP.
pee.pee. In english it’s called a postscript. They’re used to include additional information that you forgot to the first time around - your insistance on them is the equivalent of double posting all your replies then saying you like the style when people piont out what the edit button is for.