Bill Pruitt, a former producer forĀ The ApprenticeĀ whose NDA just expired after 20 years,Ā writes in SlateĀ that Donald Trump used the n-word during the production of the show ā€” and there are tapes of him doing it.

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    5 months ago

    Wouldnā€™t that be straight hate speech?

    Is that not a crime, or am I misinformed?

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      Heā€™s not getting punished for incitement for his speech on Jan 6, why would he get punished for this?

      But, yes, if it led to violence it would be considered inciting violence which is technically a crime.

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      5 months ago

      Hate speech in the United States

      In a Supreme Court case on the issue, Matal v. Tam (2017), the justices unanimously reaffirmed that there is effectively no ā€œhate speechā€ exception to the free speech rights protected by the First Amendment and that the U.S. government may not discriminate against speech on the basis of the speakerā€™s viewpoint.

      Itā€™s not a crime on its own in the US, but if it incites imminent lawless action that can be a crime.

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      5 months ago

      Depends on what you mean. Is it hate speech from a court of public opinion standpoint? Probably. Is it from a legal one? The US doesnā€™t have a hate speech law on the books just ā€œObscenity lawā€ which allows things to be censored.

      Canadian law has hate speech but it might not fit that either as to legally be chargable as hate speech it needs to fit the criteria. In this instance it could be argued use of an N slur is Denying, minimizing or celebrating past persecution or tragedies that happened to group membersā€¦ but it would ALSO need be performative in a public space, intended and performed for a large group. If itā€™s basically in the scope of him having a private conversation with individuals it isnā€™t a chargeable offence to public order. If he was shouting it in the street sure but consequences wise itā€™s analogous to someone shouting ā€œThe Duck army is coming!ā€ over and over again outside your house 3am. Itā€™s a public nuisance ordinance. If you call the cops will come over and stop it only if someone complains and at worst they will escort you away and issue a fine but nobody is going to do hard time for heralding the Duck armyā€™s arrival or hate speech.

      So like is it hate speech? Maybe. Is he a racist dick who deserves condemnation for being a hateful racist dick? Yes.

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      The N word on its own is simply vulgarity. I think hate speech relies on the content of the message.

      For instance.

      Whatā€™s up my n****? - Not hate speech.

      Spoiler contains an example of hate speech. It does not represent an actual view that I hold, and itā€™s one of the worst things Iā€™ve ever written, and should not be read by anyone.

      spoiler

      I chickened out an deleted it. No one needs to read that shit. Just imagine someone expressing a racist sentiment without using the N-word here.

      -Definitetly hate speech without using the N word.