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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

  • Soyweiser@awful.systems
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    Funny, as I also assume LLMs will cause the death of the Junior Developer, but not because the job dissapears, but because due to relying on LLMs devs never really build the skills to understand software and will suck so hard people will not hire them for the junion -> senior positions. And it gets even worse for the junior dev when the LLMs enshittify (either by the output degrading or the deal altering more and more pray they donā€™t alter the deal further).

    Guess the difference of opinion here is calling people who use LLMs junior devs vs calling them senior devs.

    Iā€™m oddly reminded of the person who used copilot to write a script to do something (which they offered to others), and didnā€™t know what http errors meant. (they just asked the LLM how to fix it).

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        @dgerard @Soyweiser I thought we were SREs now. At least, the message for years was ā€œSysadmins are useless shit now because they arenā€™t software engineers and hell, they donā€™t even call themselves engineersā€.

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            @dgerard Sometimes I feel like a hospital doctor whoā€™s worked in the clap clinic for decades and has had a series of name badges starting with ā€œVenereal Diseaseā€ and passing through ā€œSpecial Clinicā€ on the way to ā€œSexual Health Clinicā€. Same thankless job, just different labels.

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              Same basic lessons, tooā€¦ ā€œconsider the risks of giving root privileges to people you just metā€, etc.

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              I donā€™t feel like any great shakes as a sysadmin, then I encounter someone with the same job title who has clearly never used a command line before

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        Wait there are people who cannot use the command line. No wait again, donā€™t answer that please.

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              having seen the horror from a distance: VNC, a fuckton of clicking, occasionally mouse and keyboard macros, possibly a networked KVM (itself not a bad idea at all for emergency access to hardware too commodity or misdesigned to have a sensible serial console, but weā€™re talking day to day here), and a massive chip on their shoulder about being forced off their beloved Windows Server 2003 and onto Linux

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                I have had the actually quite heartwarming experience of us hiring on a serious NT BOFH (someone who knows precisely how to wave a hammer at NT to intimidate it) and he sees how Linux does stuff and is trepidatious but eventually delighted

                then there are others

                iā€™m at like the pointy-clicky stage with NT admin and sometimes itā€™s just not enough, cos itā€™s Babbyā€™s First OS but with several layers of tentacles underneath

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                How do they sysadmin a server that doesnā€™t have any display devices aside from the terminal then? Which in my experience is almost all of them?