• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    You love it? You don’t look at this and think “This can’t possibly be how a reasonable society works”?

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      When it stops being illegal to help vulnerable people, I’ll stop cheering for folks who open carry firearms to deter cops that might otherwise try to stop them.

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      Of course most of us don’t love it. A lot of us live in places where, due to concepts like gerrymandering, we have no political choice, so people have to resort to stuff like this. We love that people are fighting back, not that it has to be this way.

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        Yeah, moving somewhere else isn’t an option, but pow pow bang bang shooty shooty sure is!

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          Nobody is gonna stop you if you want to help homeless people move to a state that doesnt actively hate them

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      It isn’t how reasonable society works. It is how OUR society works. Can’t play by the rules of another game you wish you were playing, you will lose every time.

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      Not everyone agrees the cops should do whatever they want and sorting it out in court later is the way

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        and sorting it out in court later is the way

        Not with cops in US from what i heard. No chance.

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          That’s like saying the tolerant can’t be intolerant of the intolerant, when in fact they have to be.

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            And it becomes even more viable when you consider that Popper’s idea is actually based off of a social contract.

            Essentially, tolerance is based on a social contract to be tolerant to each other. If someone is being intolerant, they are explicitly and intentionally removing themselves from the contract. Ergo, they no longer fall under protections, and people can then be intolerant of their intolerance.

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                • Regular Ignorance
                • Wilful Ignorance
                • Bad Faith

                Pick One, possibly two.

                There will of course be some who haven’t considered this perspective and some who disagree.

                I’d put money, however, on the vast majority arguing in favour of tolerating intolerance are the people this concept is talking about.

                The actively intolerant using the tolerance of others to enact further intolerance.

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        And the key to getting to a reasonable society is for everybody to wear guns.