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Emmanuel Macron’s party formed a last–minute agreement with right-leaning lawmakers to win a key vote in parliament on Thursday that opens the door to the French president playing a greater-than-expected role in forming the country’s next government.
The two political groups put together an ad-hoc alliance to reelect Yaël Braun-Pivet as head of the French National Assembly, the fourth highest-ranking official in France. The vote was widely seen as a test to see who could work together in France’s fractured parliament to name a future prime minister.
In combining their forces, the centrists and the center right seized political momentum while also delivering a stunning blow to their rivals further to the left.
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Funny how quickly liberals will jump into the right’s arms just so they won’t need to hurt the interests of their rich owners by entering a coalition with the left.
Centrists are just right-wingers at the end of the day.
And extremists are just extremists at the end of the day.
Deciding that you’re too good for centrists is the same thing as deciding that you never want to accomplish anything politically. You’re all talk and no practice.
I’ll gladly be an extreme leftist, at least I fucking stand for something beyond folding to the right every chance I get.
Folding to the right and bending over for the rich. The centrist political ideology.
Do you know what “extremist” even means?
Do you know what the French left wants?
Mr. Bristielle notes that left-wing voters, who have been calling for a political alliance for several years, often agree on several points: They are against retirement at 65 but in favor of a monthly minimum wage at 1,400 euros after tax, along with the “reduction of economic growth to protect the environment.” However, there are also issues that divide the three camps, such as nuclear energy. The majority of PS sympathizers are in favor, LFI voters are divided and the majority of environmentalists are against it. International policy is also an issue: Unlike their Socialist comrades, LFI voters think that globalization has generally negative consequences.
Bone-chilling, huh?
And what kind of thing does the French right wing wants?
More crucial, though, is Le Pen’s preference for “la préférence nationale.” This benign phrase, which goes to the malignant heart of Lepenism, won’t only eliminate the constitutional right to asylum, but also the constitutional right to citizenship for those born on French soil to illegal immigrants. These and other measures — including the denial of medical care to illegal immigrants — would render the lives of millions of men, women and children in France even more vulnerable
So, one wants to help people live more comfortable lives and save the environment even if it comes at the expense of big business. The other fearmongers about brown and black peoples and wanta them to die in French streets or on a boat back to whichever war torn country they happened to escape. And Europe’s history of demonizing out-groups is…not too bright.
But yeah, won’t someone think of the businesses these left wing extremists are going to make suffer?! And the poor old people who will get to retire from their lives of labor and the poor poor people who will have to accept not being as poor anymore?!
You don’t know what words mean. Including your so-called “centrism”
I can’t find the interview, but a week or so ago, a Democrat congressman admitted that Joe Biden didn’t gain the Democrat nomination in 2020 because he was the best choice to beat Donald Trump. He won the nomination because he was the best choice to beat Bernie Sanders.
There are genuine, good-faith moderate centrist voters, but at the higher levels of government, there aren’t any good-faith, genuine moderate centrist politicians. They work for their wealthy donors, and they know it.
Edit: Found it, quote is at ~7:20
Definitely interested to see that article if you can track it down.
I try not to get vitriolic but I fucking hate the DNC. They slanted things towards Clinton in 2016 and we got Trump. They slanted things towards Biden in 2020 and we’re now in a truly unimaginable spot trying to just keep a vague democracy thing going. The country is in such bad straits— really, the world— all to screw over one guy just because he said socialism.
Far right ideology is rising shockingly quickly since Trump brought it to the west. Perhaps I am naive, but I believe that Bernie’s policies would have calmed the brewing storm of far right fury. Politicians could scream all they want about it, but Medicare is so objectively better that I think enough lower class right-wingers would’ve loved it. Like the guys who got their loans forgiven and were like “oh shit an actual benefit, if it’s for me I guess it’s not so bad”
I’m not surprised one bit
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Bernie was winning handily until half the field dropped out and endorsed Biden right before Super Tuesday, which is when Biden started winning. Pretending he just won in a purely fair and honest race is silly, we all saw the collusion.
And if you’re referring to the 2024 primary, pretending that was a real race is even more silly.
Not my photo and I don’t entirely remember its context but I’d saved it back then because it really struck me how blatant the Bernie censorship was
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I said the Democrat leadership chose him. You said that doesn’t matter because he won the primary. I said he won the primary in part because Democrat leadership chose him, and here’s how. I never complained. What they did wasn’t cheating or illegal, and I don’t think it should be.
No need to project a bunch of feelings onto me.
It doesn’t matter. You either get votes or you don’t. They could’ve picked coalesced around anyone. What difference does it make? Bernie had a good a chance as anyone in 2020. He just didn’t win.
You’re basically just rehashing the same “it isn’t fair” that a bunch of people do. It was completely fair but Bernie’s fanbase was not nearly as big. Or that didn’t show up. My entire point.
Edit- lot of butthurt people that can’t accept reality evidently.
Wow. Just wow. I shouldn’t be surprised, but I’m nonetheless amazed that they’d rather flee into the arms of the far right fascists than try to work with the left. Incredible.
Not far right, just right. But yeah unfortunately not a surprise.
Well, the small remains of the right just fractured themselves during this election over working with the far right, so the margins are pretty small on the right of Macron’s deputy’s.
Does anyone have an alternative source?Politico Europe is owned by Axel Springer SE, and Axel Springer was apparently like Germany’s Murdoch.
I don’t trust Politico Europe either.
Here’s coverage from the Guardian. It was a big story that was widely covered so it shouldn’t be hard to find another source if you want one.
I understand the concern about their sale but the conclusion that they aren’t reliable isn’t supported by evidence as far I can tell. Per the included link in the post, they haven’t failed a fact check in the last 5 years – and they were sold to Axel Springer in late 2021. MBFC has reviewed them multiple times since the acquisition. Politico, also acquired by Axel Springer, was rated “Leans Left” in blind bias reviews by AllSides both before and after the acquisition, so it doesn’t appear to have changed their editorial bias much either. I can’t find any evidence of a shift rightward or away from factual reporting.
Thanks for the info.
My concern is less about the reliability of the provided info and more the bias of the voice/language being used, and the choice of which facts get reported on. To me, this Politico article reads as rather sympathetic to the right wing.
Ultimately I don’t think “unbiased” reporting truly exists, it’d be better if journalists (and their editors/employers) were transparent about conflicts of interest, like in scientific publications (even though it’s not like that’s likely to happen, so the reality is that anyone seeking such info has to find it out by themself). Not to mention how the left-right spectrum is pretty subjective and vague.
So what was the point of that alliance, exactly? Macron isn’t willing to govern with his partners, duely elected by the people. He wants to dictate to the masses, his own will, believing himself to be above all. This is why the fascists got as far as they have in the first place. After his party did right thing to stop them, Macron is going right back to the politics that is handing France to the fascists on a silver platter.
When the left finally understands compromise, we shall save the human race about 50 years too late…/s?
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The two political groups put together an ad-hoc alliance to reelect Yaël Braun-Pivet as head of the French National Assembly, the fourth highest-ranking official in France.
The vote was widely seen as a test to see who could work together in France’s fractured parliament to name a future prime minister.
In combining their forces, the centrists and the center right seized political momentum while also delivering a stunning blow to their rivals further to the left.
The dramatic vote came just 11 days after the New Popular Front (NFP), a broad alliance of left-wing parties, secured a surprise victory in this summer’s snap election, winning the most seats but falling far short of an outright majority.
The conservatives have publicly rejected the prospect of an outright coalition with the pro-Macron camp, but they have steadily signaled their openness to finding common ground on policy — putting forward a “legislative package” focused on policies aimed at “better recognizing work and restoring authority.”
The alliance’s bickering and infighting prevented it from rallying behind a single candidate for prime minister, and even agreeing on Chassaigne — a congenial and well-respected parliamentarian — required negotiations that lasted until the day before the vote.
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